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Jimmy -

I think it his Benjamin Smith that marries Hannah Crump.

Thanks Jimmy, Exactly what I thought

It says Hannah is a spinster on the marriage to Benjamin Smith.

Although there is this,

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number I04831-5.
System Origin England-EASy.
GS Film number 350506.
Reference ID 284.

Joseph Crump.
Christening Date 04 Oct 1835.
Christening Place St. John, Halesowen, Worcester, England.
Father's Name Benjamin Crump.
Mother's Name Hannah Crump.

Thats what I've got here Jimmy - http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=353136

I have changed SMITH & CRUMP names but gotta get the parents of Benjamin SMITH right now

Father's Name Benjamin Crump.
Mother's Name Hannah Crump.

OH NO!!!

remind me again Jimmy for the umpteenth time the difference between EASy & ODM?

1841. Blackheath.
John Smith 60. Nailer.
Pheobe Smith 65.
James Smith 30.
Benjamin Smith 25.

Benjn. Smith.
Christening Date 20 Jan 1812.
Christening Place ROWLEY REGIS,STAFFORD,ENGLAND.
Father's Name John Smith.
Mother's Name Phebe.

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number P00990-1.
System Origin England-ODM.
GS Film number 0873644, 0096891, 476914.

Just in case your off to church in a min Jimmy -

remind me again Jimmy for the umpteenth time the difference between EASy & ODM?

No church tonight, I only go now friday sat and sunday, I don't know the difference.

1851. Blackheath.
John Smith 72. Nailer.
Pheby Smith 77. Oldbury.
James Smith 44.
Edwd Smith 49.
Ellen Smith 23.
Emma Smith 17.
Hannah Smith 15.

Others born Rowley Regis.

Possible marriage for John Smith,

Name John Smith.
Spouse's Name Phebe Hargrove.
Event Date 01 Dec 1807.
Event Place Tipton, Stafford, England.

England Marriages, 1538–1973.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number M16744-1.
System Origin England-EASy.
GS Film number 1526134.

There is a John Smith on BCC that match's,

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=353137

Still Need the Father William and his marriage

Jimmy wrote:Mally it looks to me that Philip is the son on William and Sarah Crump, and Williams mother is Hannah Crump (no father around).

and that Alice Jones was adopted by Joseph and Mary Crump.

and Williams mother Hannah Crump married Benjamin Smith.

Confused.....so do we have 2 William Crumps b Halesowen in abt 1835

one is son of Wm and Betty Crump............wm snr is a hay cutter
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =315635231

and the other is married to Sarah Haden....her dau Hannah Haden on 1861 is with G. parents George haden and esther and in 1871 down as Hannah crump with Wm and Sarah as dau.
that marriage has mother Hannah singler woman

I am connecting here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =926030424

the only concern is that Joseph Crump who marries Mary read ..........and adopts Alice jones who marries Philip crump has father Wm Hay cutter
so not brother of "our" wm that marries sarah....

works though that Ann Crump and Wm Crump marry sibs John and Sarah Haden
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =856595176


and then wits at wedding
29 Jul 1861 St Martin Birmingham
William CRUMP F B Rivet Maker George Street Mother Hannah Crump a Single Woman
Sarah HADEN F S George Street Father George Haden Shoe Maker
After Banns William Signed The X Of Sarah
Wit; John Haden X / Ann Crump X