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unicorn wrote:

Northern Lass wrote:So Unicorn how do you know for sure that that 1939 death is her?
does fmp have more info ..........if so can you post the proof it is her please
might be another Angelina

FMP has HICKMAN Angelina born 1859 died 1939 England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Winchester, Hampshire, England .
She isn't the Angelina Hickman that I am looking for because of the birth date.

So you haven't the death certif for Angelina then?

Do you have the burial info for your Angelina?
Do you know where she is buried?
Where she died?

could this be here

HICKMAN Alexandra 1924 - Sedgley West Midlands Dudley Register Office SEG/138/129

peterd wrote:could this be here

HICKMAN Alexandra 1924 - Sedgley West Midlands Dudley Register Office SEG/138/129

Could be would need certif to prove
but the dob we have is near to the age at death dob.

Deaths Dec 1924
Hickman Alexandra 56 Dudley 6b 853

wonder where she is buried

Thank-you both.
The only thing that I know about Angelina/Alexandra is what I have read in the census. In 1891 she was born in Kingswinford and the 1891 and 1901 census Quarrybank. In the 1891 census there is a mark in the relation to head before 'do', but I can't see what it is. Thomas Tromans is stated as her father on the online marriage details, and lastly I can't find a birth for her using all spellings.

unicorn wrote:Thank-you both.
The only thing that I know about Angelina/Alexandra is what I have read in the census. In 1891 she was born in Kingswinford and the 1891 and 1901 census Quarrybank. In the 1891 census there is a mark in the relation to head before 'do', but I can't see what it is. Thomas Tromans is stated as her father on the online marriage details, and lastly I can't find a birth for her using all spellings.

no I can't see a birth for her using any spellings either
really frustrating

you may need to contact the local regis office for kingswinford (dudley regis do stourbridge area) and ask them if they have a certif
that matches with father such and such and mother such and such..see what they have.

we are I think stuck on this so moving to brickwalls

One more question unicorn

do you have the death certif of John Thomas Hickman in 1935
interesting to see who wit and the addy



of course if that is our Alex /Angelina in 1924 then might be an idea to get that certif to see who witness is on that
might be hubby John Thomas Hickman

I can't see in the Burial regis for Quarry Bank Christ church or QB victoria road new cemetary a burial for an Alexandra or Angelina HIckman
in 1924 .....so that year is out at that burial ground/s
The 1924 is Dudley too would be Stourbridge if they were living in that area of QBank still
of course they could have moved to Dudley area
or whoever regis could have regis in Dudley

Also cant see burial at Christchurch QBank or QBank vic rd new cem for John Thomas Hickman in 1935



also looked on the Dudley cemetaries search on the 7 cemetaries couldnt see anything
http://www.dudley.gov.uk/resident/libra ... h-service/

Unicorn do you have any family recollection as to when Angelina died?
any year spring to mind?

peterd wrote:1871

Maughan Street, Kingswinford, Staffs
Charles W Southorn 27 Head Coal Miner Kingswinford
Elizabeth Southorn 35 Wife Tipton
James Doody 16 Step Son Chainmaker Kingswinford
William Thomas 14 Wifes son Chainmaker Bristol, Glouc
Mary Jane Thomas 12 Wifes Dau Hayle, Cornwall
Elizabeth Ann Thomas 9 Wifes Dau Kingswinford
Alexander Thomas 6 Wifes Dau Kingswinford
Lydia Southorn 2 Dau Kingswinford

is thomas correct is there another marriage ?


Births Jun 1865
THOMAS Angelina Liskeard 5c 77

could this be her...misspelt and regis in Cornwall?

is this Angelina on census at all then we can discount her

Can anyone find any will info on John Thomas HIckman or Angelina pls

I cant see anything for JOhn.

All the Thomas children in 1871 have had a postem put on with the name Tromans, down as step children.

last 2 born Kingswinford.


1871.
Charles W Southorn 27.
Elizabeth Southorn 35.
James Doody 16.
William Thomas 14. Step son. Bristol.
Mary Jane Thomas 12. Step Daughter. Cornwall.
Elizabeth Ann Thomas 9. Step Daughter.Kingswinford.
Alexander Thomas 6. Step Daughter.Kingswinford.
Lydia Southorn 2.

1881. Maughan Street, Kingswinford.
Elizabeth Southern 49. Married. Kingswinford.
Angelina Southern 16. Dau. Brickyard. Kingswinford.
Lydia Southern 12. Dau. Kingswinford.
William Southern 6. Son. Quarry Bank.
Charles Thos. Southern 3. Son. Quarry Bank.

All christened on the same day.

William Tromans.
Christening Date 21 Mar 1861.
Christening Place PHILLACK,CORNWALL,ENGLAND.
Birth Date 09 Jun 1856.
Father's Name Thomas Tromans.
Mother's Name Elizabeth.

Mary Jane Tromans.
Christening Date 21 Mar 1861.
Christening Place PHILLACK,CORNWALL,ENGLAND.
Birth Date 23 Apr 1858.
Father's Name Thomas Tromans.
Mother's Name Elizabeth.


Elizabeth Anne Tromans.
Christening Date 21 Mar 1861.
Christening Place PHILLACK,CORNWALL,ENGLAND.
Birth Date 15 Feb 1861.
Father's Name Thomas Tromans.
Mother's Name Elizabeth.

Indexing Project (Batch) Number C02319-1.
System Origin England-ODM.
GS Film number 254199, 254200.

I can't see a death for Thomas Tromans on Ancestry in Cornwall, but there is this,

FreeReg,

Cornwall.
Place Phillack.
Church name St Felicitas.
Register type PR.
Register entry number 3213.
Burial date 28 Oct 1863.
Person age 41.
Burial person forename Thomas
Burial person surname TROMANS.
Burial person abode Bodriggy.

??

Deaths Dec 1863.
TRUMAN Thomas. Redruth. 5c. 21_.

Jimmy wrote:I can't see a death for Thomas Tromans on Ancestry in Cornwall, but there is this,

FreeReg,

Cornwall.
Place Phillack.
Church name St Felicitas.
Register type PR.
Register entry number 3213.
Burial date 28 Oct 1863.
Person age 41.
Burial person forename Thomas
Burial person surname TROMANS.
Burial person abode Bodriggy.

If this is the right one then he can't be Angelina Tromans father if she was born in 1865.