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Re: Christ Church Quarry Bank New Cemetary Victoria Road

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:10 am
by Northern Lass
BC Wench wrote:Yes, I do know that there is a churchyard (around the church) and a graveyard (Victoria Road.) I should have said in my post that my burials were in the church grounds. Anyway, that could mean that there are MI's for the churchyard and not the graveyard in Victoria Road :?:

Nice one NL in following this up with the council.

You're definitely right, not every entry in the burial register has a grave number.


Just wondered Barb if you could maybe check with Dudley archives to see if they have Monumental Inscripts for the churchyard at Q.Bank christchurch and maybe a graveyard plan?
Only if you time and got a contact :wink:

I asked P. for the one at Victoria Road....they might have them for the actual churchyard.

:grin:

Re: Christ Church Quarry Bank New Cemetary Victoria Road

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 3:46 pm
by BC Wench
Will let you know when my contact gets back to me Jan :wink:

I've just been thinking (very rare I know) where you say

[quote= I was thinking if there is a grave up that end that is still visible and we know the number from the burial book say it is 1020 ...and say I am after
1023...which I am.....then we know it is near there...would that be a way of finding them. [/quote]

When I was looking for graves in the Dudley Cemetery on the Stourbridge Road, Queens Cross, I had the cemetery plan which was marked in Sections A, B, C etc. and the grave number, say 1020. This number was embedded in the back of the headstone near to the ground, so I looked for the nearest number to 1020 and went along the row where all the grave numbers ran consecutively and found them.

So, I'm wondering if the same could be done for the Victoria Road site. Probably too big a task though as you don't have the graveyard marked off in sections like I did.

Re: Christ Church Quarry Bank New Cemetary Victoria Road

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:49 pm
by BC Wench
I've just heard back from my contact. There are no monumental inscriptions books for Christ Church, Quarry Bank or any printed transcripts and there's no reference to a graveyard plan in the Archives collection for this church either.

I can only think the plot numbers that I have are ones that a contact had given to me when he was searching for his family.

:(

Re: Christ Church Quarry Bank New Cemetary Victoria Road

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:38 am
by Northern Lass
Thanks Barb and DT

I have checked with the Diocese at Worcs they don't have anything.

I am waiting to hear now back from Dudley as to when the Brambles will be cleared.

Barb re the trying to do our own Plan...All the burials don't have entry nos in the burial register
so there is a burial in books but not an entry no /grave entry no....and thinking about it I would need some
big help working it all out....too much for me on my own....and my brain :shock:

I think if the Brambles are cleared then at least we can get some photos and transcribe the Graves then maybe look at who they
are in the Burial register and the numbers /Grave entry nos.....then maybe there maybe some order or pattern of rows etc....
but it is too big to do for one person.

I am uploading some photos to Bcc courtesy of Rf
I will list them here too and put link on as I do them in a new post....then anyone looking can find them.
:grin:

Re: Christ Church Quarry Bank New Cemetary Victoria Road

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:49 am
by Northern Lass
dudleytaylor wrote:
BC Wench wrote:I've just heard back from my contact. There are no monumental inscriptions books for Christ Church, Quarry Bank or any printed transcripts and there's no reference to a graveyard plan in the Archives collection for this church either.

I can only think the plot numbers that I have are ones that a contact had given to me when he was searching for his family.

:(


i assume their will be none at the Hive . but i will make sure :wink:


Hi DT just had a look at Worcs. holdings ...they don't seem to have them :(

Re: Christ Church Quarry Bank New Cemetary Victoria Road

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:20 pm
by 18chestnut
NL ,if you go to Victoria Road cemetery after Christmas, let me know and I will meet you there.Pat

Re: Christ Church Quarry Bank New Cemetary Victoria Road

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:29 pm
by rockyfowler
22 Oct 1882 St Michael Brierley Hill
Josiah BAGNALL 20 B Iron-Worker Mill Street Father John Bagnall Miner
Elizabeth HOOD 21 S Mill Street Father Thomas Hood Miller
After Banns Both Signed
Wit; Joseph Penn X / Matilda Bagnall

Re: Christ Church Quarry Bank New Cemetary Victoria Road

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:09 pm
by peterd
The best way to do it is print a map of from google earth section it, photograph by section and transcribe section at a time so you can call the section a - z and number grave 1 - 100 for each section,so if there is any reference markes uncoverd will photgraph them too

Re: Christ Church Quarry Bank New Cemetary Victoria Road

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:21 pm
by Northern Lass
peterd wrote:The best way to do it is print a map of from google earth section it, photograph by section and transcribe section at a time so you can call the section a - z and number grave 1 - 100 for each section,so if there is any reference markes uncoverd will photgraph them too


thanks RF for marriage :grin:

When you up next Peter :grin:

Re: Christ Church Quarry Bank New Cemetary Victoria Road

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:01 pm
by peterd
dont no

Re: Christ Church Quarry Bank New Cemetary Victoria Road

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 7:49 pm
by peterd
just pop out in me helicopter took this might help to pinpoint them graves


google earth
google earth
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Re: Christ Church Quarry Bank New Cemetary Victoria Road

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:50 am
by Northern Lass
That is great I have put a post on in snug asking for help how to put notes on the photo

Re: Christ Church Quarry Bank New Cemetary Victoria Road

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:09 pm
by dudleytaylor
Your welcome NL .................Just had Email from Worcester it reads : This is an automated response to your enquiry sent to the Worcestershire Archive and Archaeology Service. Thank you for contacting Worcestershire Archive Service. Your enquiry has been logged and will be answered along with telephone, letter and visitor enquiries. Our staff will check appropriate catalogues and indexes on your behalf and will respond to you within 7 working days (Monday to Friday) in accordance with our Enquiry Policy. Please note we are unable to respond to enquiries on Saturdays or Sundays. From July 1st 2013 there will be a charge of £10 for any enquiries involving a limited search of our collections. For further information on our services, please visit our website . So I will send them e.mail informing them that u have already found the information u required . :-)

Re: Christ Church Quarry Bank New Cemetary Victoria Road

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:00 am
by Northern Lass
dudleytaylor wrote:Your welcome NL .................Just had Email from Worcester it reads : This is an automated response to your enquiry sent to the Worcestershire Archive and Archaeology Service. Thank you for contacting Worcestershire Archive Service. Your enquiry has been logged and will be answered along with telephone, letter and visitor enquiries. Our staff will check appropriate catalogues and indexes on your behalf and will respond to you within 7 working days (Monday to Friday) in accordance with our Enquiry Policy. Please note we are unable to respond to enquiries on Saturdays or Sundays. From July 1st 2013 there will be a charge of £10 for any enquiries involving a limited search of our collections. For further information on our services, please visit our website . So I will send them e.mail informing them that u have already found the information u required . :-)


Thanks DT :wink:

Re: Christ Church Quarry Bank New Cemetary Victoria Road

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:02 am
by Northern Lass
Ok starting to upload some of the Photos of Gravestones at the Cemetary and add them to Bcc....not sure of position in Graveyard but I can go and look at that after crimbo.

If anyone has any photos please let me know....we then at least can put down what we have and it may help others.

Photos courtesy of Rf of those Buried at Christ Church Quarry Bank Victoria Road New Cemetary

BAGNALL....Josiah Bagnall and wife Elizabeth Bagnall
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =500748712

BOWKLEY....Arthur, Ellen and an Edith Nellie Bowkley (married name Morris)
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

DUDLEY..Arthur Dudley and wife Gladys Maria Dudley
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =111863630

DUDLEY...Josiah Dudley and parents Arthur Dudley and Maria Dudley
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =544711795


if anyone can help with putting this lot on a spreadsheet please let me know I have started one off but maybe unable to keep it up.