ARC TBC...........Ellen Price

[Northern Lass]

Ok here is the marriage for that Ellen Nock..........father is a Thomas Nock
So don't think that is our Ellen.

19 Nov 1871 St Thomas Dudley
Isaac Ward 21 bach chainmaker Dudley Joseph Ward chainmaker
Ellen Nock 22 spinster Dudley Thomas Nock chainmaker
X both
wit X Noah Howells X Sarah Howells

I will start new thread for this couple and add to Bcc.

So if that isnt our Ellen where is her marriage to a Ward?

[Northern Lass]

The wits on Ellens marriage to Edward Wood may help but there are loads marrying between say
1855- 1900

2 of them are here courtesy of Rf---on Bcc already.

14 Nov 1858 St Thomas Dudley
Samuel Nock full bach Puddler Dudley Samuel Nock dead nailer
Phebe Rose Full spinster Dudley Benjamin Rose dead Puddler
banns
X both
wit X Sarah Parkes X Andrew Parkes

on Bcc here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =852907105


2nd Feb 1857 St Thomas Dudley
Samuel Nock full bach miner Dudley Samuel Nock miner
Phebe Laughton full spinster Dudley John Laughton miner
Banns
X both
wit X Thomas Holloway X Eliza Saddler

on Bcc here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =463414342


there are more on bmsgh I think

[Northern Lass]

Sarah Ann Harris Head of House
On 1911 Census is shown as Sarah E. Holmes and her Harris children are shown as Step.children of John Holmes
Sarah E. Ward married a John Harris in 1891 West Bromwich Reg. Office ( but she would have only been 15 or 16 )

HOLMES John HARRIS Sarah A Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/10/37 1902

I think that marriage in 1891 is Sarah E ..............cant be looked up as regis office......
1891
HARRIS John WARD Sarah E
West Bromwich Register Office (WBRO) Sandwell Register Office WBRO/21/39

[mumbles]

Johnson Family are already on bcc

http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =895591258

I have made connection to John Holmes and added Census and other details and Sarah Ann Harris (nee Johnson) children by Moses Harris

So Ward connection was a Red Herring

[Northern Lass]

So we still don't know who Ellen Price married first

do you want to still run with this Mumbles?

[mumbles]

Tried everything and not resolved other than sorting out Holmes and Johnson connections so I think leave for now NL

[Northern Lass]

Ok I did wonder you know on that Ellen Nock one just added here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =707659492

cos wondering if father is maybe an Arthur Price
and this Ellen Nock is not dau of Thomas Nock and Lucy ............but dau of one of Thomas and Sarah nocks other kids
maybe Ellen Ward nee Price puts Arthur Price down as father on her marriage as mother Rebecca? not married?
And Ellen Nocks marriage Grandfathers name used

This Elbow st keeps coming up
I think Samuel Nock and Phebe Scriven
might be wits
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =923089171
they are at Elbow st in 1881

lost plot now

[Northern Lass]

Mumbles look at this
Jimmy posted on other thread

Isaac Ward dies in 1892
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Isaac Ward.
Name: Isaac Ward.
Estimated birth year: abt 1851.
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1892.
Age at Death: 41.
Registration district: Dudley.
Inferred County: Staffordshire.
Volume: 6c.
Page: 2.

[Northern Lass]

1891. 43 Elbow St, ROwley Regis.
Mary Lowe 70. Head.
Isaac Wanghs 39. Nephew. Chainmaker.
Ellen Wanghs 41. Niece.
Thomas Wanghs 15. Nephew.
Sarah Wanghs 11. Niece.
Mary Wanghs 10. Niece.

All born Rowley Regis.

Ellen Price marries in 1900

so wondering if Ellen Nock marries Isaac Ward he dies in 1892 and she goes onto marry Edward wood

[Northern Lass]

I think that Ellen Nock b abt 1850 is Ellen Price

I think that Ellens mother is Rebecca Nock marries Samuel Swain
and Ellen is with mother and her mothers new hubby in 1861 as Ellen Swain (see Jimmys info below)

Ellen marries Isaac Ward in 1871
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =919259163

Isaac Ward dies in 1892

Ellen then goes onto marry Edward Wood in 1900
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =960673424

Rebecca Nock marries.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1856.
NOCK Rebecca. SWAIN Samuel. Dudley, St Edmund. Dudley Register Office. 201/002/461.

Is Ellen Nock Rebecca's daughter.? can't see a Ellen Swain in 1851.


1861. Old Hill,Rowley Regis.
Samuel Swain 29. Horse nail maker. Belper, Derbyshire.
Rebecca Swain 35.
Thomas Swain 4. Son.
Ellen Swain 14. Dau. Nailmaker.

Others born Rowley Regis.

Samuel Swain.
Spouse's Name: Rebecca Nock.
Event Date: 01 Sep 1856
Event Place: St Edmund'S, Dudley, Worcester, England
Father's Name: John Swain
Spouse's Father's Name: Blank.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02301-7.
System Origin: England-ODM.
GS Film number: 992182.

But need more proof that Ellen Nock is Ellen Price...............any ideas anyone?

[Jimmy]

West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1849.
PRICE Ellen Stourbridge (STO). Dudley Register Office. STO/018/235.

West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1847.
NOCK Ellen. Rowley Regis. Sandwell Register Office. RR/10/433.


West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1853.
NOCK Ellen. Dudley (DUD). Dudley Register Office. DUD/052/56.

[Jimmy]

on the 1900 Edward Wood has
a Sarah Ward ............down as dau
is this a child of Ellen Wood nee Ward nee price

can we find Sarah Ward b 1885 on the 1891.

Births Jun 1886.
WARD Sarah. Dudley. 6c. 52.

Births Sep 1886.
Warrs Sarah. Dudley. 6c. 12.

[gardener]

I think this is a dead horse

[Jimmy]

Births Sep 1849.
Price Ellen Stourbridge. 18. 482.

[Northern Lass]

Do we have a death date for Ellen Wood ...........maybe hit lucky and get a dob on Ancestry deaths?

I do think Ellen Nock is Ellen Price............but cant prove it