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Re: Benjamin Carter from Paulton to Dudley late 1840s

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Okedoke added in here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=68417932

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Worcs archives
http://www.worcestershire.gov.uk/cms/ar ... cords.aspx

"Electoral Registers – registers and poll books date back to the mid 19th century listing all voters by
address."

http://www.worcestershire.gov.uk/cms/ar ... story.aspx
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Re: Benjamin Carter from Paulton to Dudley late 1840s

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Hi Terry - sorry - it will be Dudley Archives I'll be visiting in January, although I could do with making a visit to Worcester as well. If you e mail Worcester Archives at the Hive, they will tell you, exactly what electoral and tax records they hold and if they do have the ones you need, we can add it to our lookups and if someone is visiting there, they can look it up for you.

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Re: Benjamin Carter from Paulton to Dudley late 1840s

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Regarding Electoral Rolls only Landowners and Business Men are recorded before 1918. HTH Linell.
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Re: Benjamin Carter from Paulton to Dudley late 1840s

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That is false??? Nearly right? :thumbup:
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About London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965

This database contains selected annual lists of names and residences of people in London who were eligible to vote in elections.

Historical Background

Electoral registers are lists of individuals who are eligible to vote during the time the register is in force (usually one year). Registration for voters in England has been required since 1832, and registers were typically published annually, though some years had two. Registers were not published during the latter years of World War 1 (1916–1917) or World War 2 (1940–1944).

Restrictive property requirements denied the vote to much of the population for years, though these were eased somewhat in 1867 and 1884 through the Second and Third Reform Acts. They were finally removed, for men, in 1918, when most males age 21 and older were allowed to vote. The franchise was extended to some women over the age of 30 in 1918, but it was not until 1928 that the voting age was made 21 for both men and women.

Thus, the number of names listed in the registers increases with the expansion of suffrage in England, and the 2 million images in this database list more than 100 million names.

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Re: Benjamin Carter from Paulton to Dudley late 1840s

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I have the 1914 from Quarry bank with everyone on!
Not just Landowners and business men.

had a look for Rf few years ago. :wink:
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Re: Benjamin Carter from Paulton to Dudley late 1840s

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Electoral Registers also come under various names, such as Burgess Rolls and Poll Books, depending upon which year.

The first Dudley Borough Burgess Rolls which covers the Dudley Parish, i.e. St Thomas's, Castle, St Edmund's, St James's, St John's, Netherton and Woodside is 1865 and are on Microfilm. Oakeywell Street would have come under St Thomas's Parish.

No Registers compiled for 1916-1917 (World War 1) and 1940-1944 (World War 2) From 1945-1949 Registers were compiled twice a year Spring and Autumn.

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Re: Benjamin Carter from Paulton to Dudley late 1840s

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Northern Lass wrote:I have the 1914 from Quarry bank with everyone on!
Not just Landowners and business men.

had a look for Rf few years ago. :wink:
That was an amazing find NL. We're all the Quarry Bank Households recorded? Sorry if this message is not spaced out properly am on my phone. Linell.
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Quarry Bank are at your local Archive Stafford except afew years at Dudley I checked them for my rels a few years a go- they are in Book form http://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/Resourc ... pr2010.pdf Best RF
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Oh great thanks RF will get over there in the New Year, merry Xmas. Linell.
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Re: Benjamin Carter from Paulton to Dudley late 1840s

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linell wrote:
Northern Lass wrote:I have the 1914 from Quarry bank with everyone on!
Not just Landowners and business men.

had a look for Rf few years ago. :wink:
That was an amazing find NL. We're all the Quarry Bank Households recorded? Sorry if this message is not spaced out properly am on my phone. Linell.


This was just one area think it was High Street in 1914.
Didn't help crack Rfs query though unfortunately.
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Re: Benjamin Carter from Paulton to Dudley late 1840s

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My thanks, again, to everyone for all the additional input and ideas. I will go through all the links and make follow up contacts.

For the comment on electoral records at the Worcester Archives site, the mid nineteenth century is about as close as we can get to 1850. That is the year I am most interested in. Here is a bit more detail on why I am trying to find out which house on Oakey Well Street my great grandfather, Benjamin Carter (1822-1897), was living in when he got married in 1850.

On the 1851 census of Dudley, there are two Carter families from Paulton, Somerset, living on Oakey Well Street. These are:
George Carter born Paulton and Frances (nee Hickmans) born Dudley living at number 99 and
William Carter and Grace (also nee Carter) both born Paulton with children Simon and Mary (born Paulton) and Esther (born Dudley) living at number 133.

William Carter was the son of Benjamin Carter (1781-1829) and Hester nee West (1780-1840). There are gaps in the Paulton records and Benjamin and Hester plus their children cannot be reliably connected (through documentation) to any of the Carter lines in Paulton. However, Benjamin was born around 1780 / 81, which fits into a gap in the children of James Carter (1744-1814) and Ann Maggs (1747-1831). James and Ann are my direct ancestors. Benjamin and Hester named their first son Simon, which was not a common name. Simon Carter was the name of the father of James Carter (1744). All this, of course, is circumstantial but finding which house my great grandfather was living in would be additional information.

I have traced the children of William Carter and Grace (nee Carter) to the 1911 census and beyond and tried letters to newspapers (Black Country Bugle and Express & Star) in an attempt to contact living descendants, who may have family records. Now I am a member of this forum, I could also post an entry on this couple and their children? What do you think?
Regards, Terry.
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Re: Benjamin Carter from Paulton to Dudley late 1840s

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Hi Terry probably best to not put any living rellies names on the forum, we try not to do that.
You could put a note on this thread saying if any living rellies connect to ,,(then put one of the deceased names)
to contact you in a private message via forum....

that way anyone searching for the name will see your post on here. :wink:
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Post by Terry Carter »

Thank you for the input and guidance.

I do not think any of the names I have traced are still living but I will double check. I will make sure to use only names that I know are no longer living. There is a discrete generation that fits that requirement. I will pick this up after Christmas and New Years.

Have a great Christmas and may 2014 be the best year yet for everyone.
Regards, Terry.
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Post by Terry Carter »

Happy New Year Everyone.

Just got back from Saint Lucia and picking the research up again. As we discussed late last year, I would like to trace descendants of William Carter and Grace also nee Carter who moved from Paulton, Somerset, to Dudley in the early 1850s. I have a set of descendant names that are all dead; 1896 was the most recent baptism. What I am thinking of is to start a new post with a different title so that it stands out as a separate search. Let me know what you think. For now I am entering the information here so I can copy paste to a new post and also so you can see it. I have some names for the next generation but will hold off on them until the moderator(s) can review them (and dates; latest baptism is 1911). I have dates for the marriages shown below and can enter them later.

Here are the names and dates I have.

Descendants of William Carter (1813-1871) and Grace Carter (1813-1861) who moved from Paulton, Somerset, to Dudley in the early 1850s.

SIMON Carter (1840-1909) married Elizabeth Evans (1837-?); their known children are:
Clara Carter (1865-?) married Isaiah Jackson
William Carter (1867-?) married Sarah Gatehouse
Mindrell Carter (1868-1901) married William Goodman
Esther Carter (1870-?) married Frederick Tench
Sarah Ann Carter (1871-?) MIA
Louisa Carter (1873-?) married Joseph Sproston and emigrated to Canada
Samuel Carter (1877-?) married Clara Colbourne and emigrated to Canada

MARY Carter (1845-?) married Richard Shaw:
Two of their daughters married brothers family name Montague and all moved to the US of A
other daughters are MIA

ESTHER Carter (1850-1928) married Samuel Wilkinson; known children are:
Samuel W Wilkinson (1874-?)
Frederick J Wilkinson (1887-?)

JOSEPH Carter (1853-1928) married Betsy Perry (1853-1910); known children are:
William Henry Carter (1878-?) married Mary Russell
Elizabeth Ann Maria Carter (1877-1891)
Joseph Carter (1879-?) married Bertha Smart
Simon Carter (1880-?) married Sarah Ann Turner
Minnie Carter (1883-?)
Arthur Carter (1885-?)
Patience Carter (1887-?) married Richard Lawler
Thomas Carter (1891-?)
Betsy Carter (1894-?)
Albert Carter (1896-?)
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Re: Benjamin Carter from Paulton to Dudley late 1840s

Post by Terry Carter »

Hi Everyone,

Looks like no replies so should I move the list of names to a separate posting or will that not do anything to get more input?

Regards, Terry.
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