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Re: Maria Shakespeare born 1821 Brierley Hill

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:40 pm
by sp1
sp1 wrote:Right..............
that burial fits with Benjamins first wife Sarah being Sarah Wassell:

There are these baptisms, both at Brierley Hill:
21 June 1818, Sarah d of William & Sarah Wassell
8 Aug 1830, Eliza d of William & Sarah Wassell
Remember - in 1841 Benjamin has an Eliza Wassell, aged 10, living with him, and his wife, Sarah, who has presumably died, is not there.

Jo
Do you think this is enough to confirm Benjamin Shakespeare's marriage was to Sarah Wassell ( I do!) - if so needs adding to BCC

Re: Maria Shakespeare born 1821 Brierley Hill

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:59 pm
by grangers14
I need to look through...
I will be able to tomorrow, nearly bed time for me!
Jo :)

Re: Maria Shakespeare born 1821 Brierley Hill--Jo sorting

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:44 pm
by grangers14
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West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1861
SHAKESPEARE Maria STRINGER Richard Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/020/93

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1871. 22 West Gate, Rotheram
Richard Stringer, 66, Wine Dealer, Astley? Worcs.
Maria, wife, 54? Brierley Hill

Re: Maria Shakespeare born 1821 Brierley Hill

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 3:28 pm
by grangers14
sp1 wrote:Ages are a bit out:
Baptisms at Brierley Hill, all children of Benjamin & Sarah Shakespeare:
12 Apr 1812 Maria
19 Aug 1810 Elijah

They ARE on BCC:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... are-Family



I think the family are Benjamin and Sarah Shakespeare as sp1 said.
The nephews could possibly be,
Benjamin, Elijahs son, it looks like 1871 he is with his sister
Could Pricilla really be Emma, Williams daughter?
Not sure about Joseph?
Maria is with her Mother in 1841 and possibly as a servant in Rowland Price a solicitor household?
1851. Upper High Street, Stourbridge, servant, 35, House servant, Kingswinford


Also Henry Shakespeare, Elijah son is down on BCC as Mary Anns son but as Elijah is already a widower is Henry Maria son?
1871. Park? Street, Kingswinford
Elijah Shakespeare, head, 60, Miner
Maria, wife, 55
Henry, son, 11
All born Kingswinford

Re: Maria Shakespeare born 1821 Brierley Hill--Jo sorting

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:17 am
by grangers14
grangers14 wrote:??
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1861
SHAKESPEARE Maria STRINGER Richard Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/020/93

??
1871. 22 West Gate, Rotheram
Richard Stringer, 66, Wine Dealer, Astley? Worcs.
Maria, wife, 54? Brierley Hill


Thank you RF for the look up!

1 Aug 1861 St Thomas Dudley
Richard STRINGER F W Wine Merchant Dudley Father Thomas Stringer (Dec) Publican
Maria SHAKESPEARE F S Dudley Father Benjamin Shakespeare (Dec) Miner
After Banns Richard Signed The X Of Maria
Wit; Mary? Shakespeare / Joseph Shakespeare X

Re: Maria Shakespeare born 1821 Brierley Hill

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:32 pm
by grangers14
grangers14 wrote:
Also Henry Shakespeare, Elijah son is down on BCC as Mary Anns son but as Elijah is already a widower is Henry Maria son?
1871. Park? Street, Kingswinford
Elijah Shakespeare, head, 60, Miner
Maria, wife, 55
Henry, son, 11
All born Kingswinford


Could this be Henry with brother Elijah?
1861. Chapel Street, Kinswinford
Benjamin Perry, head, 35, Coal Miner
Margaret, wife, 29,
Selina, daur, 15,
Fanny, daur, 11,
Enoch, son, 8,
/Elijah Shakespeare, Lodger, 19, coal miner
Henry Shakespeare, Lodger, 2
All born Brierley Hill

Re: Maria Shakespeare born 1821 Brierley Hill

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:34 pm
by grangers14
sp1 wrote:
sp1 wrote:Right..............
that burial fits with Benjamins first wife Sarah being Sarah Wassell:

There are these baptisms, both at Brierley Hill:
21 June 1818, Sarah d of William & Sarah Wassell
8 Aug 1830, Eliza d of William & Sarah Wassell
Remember - in 1841 Benjamin has an Eliza Wassell, aged 10, living with him, and his wife, Sarah, who has presumably died, is not there.

Jo
Do you think this is enough to confirm Benjamin Shakespeare's marriage was to Sarah Wassell ( I do!) - if so needs adding to BCC


Yes it does look right. I have asked for a look up of a possible marriage for Eliza, see what that says too. Thats if I have picked the right one!
This benjamin though is from another lot of Shakespeares.
I think I have added all I can for Maria and family...
Sp1 if you have chance would you have a look please.
Jo :)

Re: Maria Shakespeare born 1821 Brierley Hill--Jo sorting

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:17 pm
by sp1
Looks fine Jo.

Possible baptism for Richard Stringer (on IGI, ODM):
21 Oct 1804, Astley, Worcestershire, s of Thomas & Hannah Stringer

Re: Maria Shakespeare born 1821 Brierley Hill--Jo sorting

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:27 pm
by grangers14
I have added that christening as a possible. Thank you for looking sp1

Jo :)

Re: Maria Shakespeare born 1821 Brierley Hill--Jo sorting

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:39 pm
by grangers14
Brilliant thank you RF :grin:

17 Jan 1850 St Thomas Dudley
Benjamin SKELDING 25 B Writing Clerk Holly Hall Father Charles Skelding (Dec) Miner
Eliza WASSALL 20 S Holly Hall Father William Wassall Boatman
After Banns Both Signed
Wit; Charles Skelding /William Skelding

I will split this off and make sure this is the right family.
Do you know if the marriage was added for look up for Benjamin and Eliza sp1?

Jo :)

Re: Maria Shakespeare born 1821 Brierley Hill--Jo sorting

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:04 am
by sp1
I haven't added anything for a look up

Re: Maria Shakespeare born 1821 Brierley Hill--Jo sorting

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:58 pm
by grangers14
Ive added the marriage to look ups.
Archive?
Jo :)