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Another long shot!!!!!!

1911 Census: Spring Hill Farm,Essington,Nr.Wolverhampton.
James William SMITH hd.50 Master Farmer b.Bloxwich.
Eliza Mary SMITH wife 49 b.Bloxwich.
William Louis SMITH son 19 b.Essington.
Clare Beard niece 7 b.Bloxwich.
George SMITH brother 41 Waggoner b.Bloxwich.
May Rowley Serv, 23 Dom.Serv. b.Siesdon.

sparkstopper wrote:Another long shot!!!!!!

I really hope this isn't him otherwise I have been tracing the wrong family for the last three years!

But no stone unturned and all that so will look into this more Thank you

spes123 wrote:

sparkstopper wrote:Another long shot!!!!!!

I really hope this isn't him otherwise I have been tracing the wrong family for the last three years!

But no stone unturned and all that so will look into this more Thank you

Which is your ancestor on this one you posted ie your line down
1891 Census 77 Alma Street Wolverhampton
SMITH James Head married 30 Furnace man Staffordshire Bloxwich
SMITH Sarah Wife 33 Staffordshire Willenhall
SMITH Thomas Son 6 Staffordshire Wolverhampton
SMITH Joseph J Son 4 Staffordshire Wolverhampton
SMITH John Son 2 Staffordshire Wolverhampton
SMITH David G Son 1 month Staffordshire Wolverhampton

does the line lead back to this one in 1891

son Thomas is my grand father and James my Great Grandfather, and it is James I am trying to locate, both before his marriage and after the 1901 census

Just having a quick look but I think Spark stopper is right. The marriage states James as a Farmer
The other census here shows him as furnace man...........
Jo

sparkstopper wrote:Another long shot!!!!!!

1911 Census: Spring Hill Farm,Essington,Nr.Wolverhampton.
James William SMITH hd.50 Master Farmer b.Bloxwich.
Eliza Mary SMITH wife 49 b.Bloxwich.
William Louis SMITH son 19 b.Essington.
Clare Beard niece 7 b.Bloxwich.
George SMITH brother 41 Waggoner b.Bloxwich.
May Rowley Serv, 23 Dom.Serv. b.Siesdon.

William Louis was actually 7 on the original -- this is a mis transcription --

married 9 years and only one child born and living -- if it is this James he had a previous marriage

sparkstopper wrote:Another long shot!!!!!!

1911 Census: Spring Hill Farm,Essington,Nr.Wolverhampton.
James William SMITH hd.50 Master Farmer b.Bloxwich.
Eliza Mary SMITH wife 49 b.Bloxwich.
William Louis SMITH son 19 b.Essington.
Clare Beard niece 7 b.Bloxwich.
George SMITH brother 41 Waggoner b.Bloxwich.
May Rowley Serv, 23 Dom.Serv. b.Siesdon.

Marriages Mar 1902
BEECH Eliza Mary Walsall 6b 1028
Revitt Susannah Elizabeth Walsall 6b 1028
Smith James William Walsall 6b 1028
Thompson Thomas Walsall 6b 1028


so this one isnt yours at all then?

the birth certif for your g.father has mother Sarah Hayward?

1891 Census 77 Alma Street Wolverhampton
SMITH James Head married 30 Furnace man Staffordshire Bloxwich
SMITH Sarah Wife 33 Staffordshire Willenhall
SMITH Thomas Son 6 Staffordshire Wolverhampton
SMITH Joseph J Son 4 Staffordshire Wolverhampton
SMITH John Son 2 Staffordshire Wolverhampton
SMITH David G Son 1 month Staffordshire Wolverhampton


Do you have any of the marriages for the sibs of Thomas

do they have father James occup and any deceased wording?

Northern Lass wrote:
the birth certif for your g.father has mother Sarah Hayward?

Yes Sarah Hayward is my g.father's mother.

Northern Lass wrote:Do you have any of the marriages for the sibs of Thomas

do they have father James occup and any deceased wording?

So far I have only managed to find 1 other marriage which gives James occup as ironworker and no mention of being deceased. 9 of the sibs of Thomas died before they were old enough to marry

Is this still a Brickwall, or have you solved it?

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Hi it is still a brick wall but please move it to archies as I am struggling with time to do anything on this at the moment

Thank You

Thanks for letting me know spes123. Just let me know if you want the thread put back into the Brick Walls section.