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1881 26 Hull St Elswick, Northumberland

George BELL Head 27 Haltwhistle, Northumberland, General Labourer
Isabella BELL Wife 20 Kingsland, Hereford,
Gertrude BELL 4 Lazonby, Cumberland,
Annie BELL 1 Lazonby, Cumberland,
Creland BELL Son 3 m Newcastle On Tyne

or isabella charlotte unless he married two sisters as isabella and charlotte both born kingsland hereford

poss marriage

Marriages Jun 1876

AUDE Jane Penrith 10b 675
BELL George Penrith 10b 675
Cartwright Charlotte Penrith 10b 675
Ferguson David Penrith 10b 675

1861 Bolgate, Aymestrey, Herefordshire
Mary Cartwright Wife Mar 30 Gardener's Wife b. Herefordshire, Elton
William Henry Cartwright Son 6 b. Warwick, Birmingham
Charlotte Cartwright Daur 11 Mo Gardener's Daughter b. Herefordshire, Kingsland

1871 Dacre, Cumberland
Mary Cartwright Wife Mar 40 Coachman's Wife b. Staffordshire,
Henry Cartwright Son 16 Coachman's Son b. Warwick, Birmingham
John Cartwright Son 14 b. Herefordshire, Kingsland
Charlott Cartwright Daur 10 b. Herefordshire, Kingsland
Annie Cartwright Daur 3 b. Herefordshire, Kingsland

1861 Kingsland Village,
Martha Cartwright Head Widow 74 Laundress b. Sallop, Bromfield
John Cartwright Grandson 4 b. Hereford Kingsland (this son John in 1871 with Mary?)

1891 62 Elm St., Benwell, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland
Mary Cartwright Head Widow 60 b. Herefordshire
William Henry Cartwright Son 35 General Labourer b. Birmingham
John Cartwright Son 33 General Labourer b. Herefordshire
Annie Eliza Cartwright Daur M 22 b. Herefordshire
William Robson Son in law 26 Leather Cutter b. Durham, Gateshead
Mary Jane Robson Granddaur 9/12 b. Motherwell, Berwick

1901 48 Elswick St., Westgate, Newcastle upon Tyne
(1 of 4 families at this address)
Mary Cartwright Head Widow 70 b. Elton, Herefordshire
William H Cartwright Son 44 Coal Worker (above ground) b. Kingsland, Herefordshire
John D Cartwright Son 42 Navvy (Labourer) b. Kingsland, Herefordshire

Still haven't sighted Mary's husband - the 'gardener/coachman', or an Isabella Cartwright.

IGI Individual Record Extracted
WILLIAM HENRY CARTWRIGHT
Christening: 27 AUG 1854 Saint Mark, Birmingham, Warwick
Father: JOHN CARTWRIGHT
Mother: MARY

1851 Kingsland, Herefordshire
John Cartwright Head 51 Ag. Labourer b. Hereford, Burrington
Martha Cartwright Wife 63 Laundress b. Salop, Bromfield
Elizabeth Cartwright Daur 20 Laundress b. Hereford, Burrington
John Cartwright Son 19 Ag. Labourer b. Herefordshire, Eardisland

This could be John, the husband of Mary and father of Charlotte. Wonder where he is in '61 & '71.

John Cartwright in 1871?

At The Vicarage, Dacre
Adolphus Hamilton Head 34 Curate of Dacre, Cumberland
Henrietta C Hamilton Wife 48
Helen H Hamilton Daur 20
F A H Hamilton Daur 18
Geraldine Hamilton Daur 14
Amy B Hamilton Daur 12
Reginald Hamilton 10
Bertha C G Hamilton Daur 7
Grace Hodgson Servant 23 Housemaid, Domestic Servant
John Cartwright Servant 39 Coachman, Domestic Servant b. Herefordshire, Eardisland

... and in 1861

At The Garden House, Aymestrey, Herefordshire
Elizabeth Williams Daur (of whom?) 26 Spinster b. Herefordshire, Leominster
Albert Williams Son 14 Scholar b. Herefordshire, Leominster
John Cartwright Servant 29 Labourer b. Herefordshire, Eardisland

Flippin eck Di!
I didn't know any of this I will save all this and when I get a min have a look at adding what I can to my tree.

Thanks all

While I'm at it, NL...
All extracted:
Cartwright
Father: John , Mother: Mary

JOHN EDWARD CARTWRIGHT Christening: 26 APR 1857 Kingsland, Hereford, England
CHARLOTTE CARTWRIGHT Christening: 11 MAY 1860 Kingsland, Hereford, England
ANNIE ELIZABETH CARTWRIGHT Christening: 03 SEP 1867 Kingsland, Hereford, England

Thanks Di gonna save this all.....

Ok so I am sending for Lauras birth certif to check her father is a Daniel on there
cos
on her marriage in 1930 she puts down William Henry Oram deceased draper

now if her father was Daniel which I am sure he was....why put that on your marriage years later

what happened to Daniel?

and

can anyone find a record of William Henry Oram and when he died or emigrated to America please

Northern Lass wrote:
can anyone find a record of William Henry Oram and when he died or emigrated to America please

Probably nothing to do with him but, just in case

http://boards.ancestry.it/surnames.oram/68/mb.ashx

1901 159 Stanhope St., Westgate, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland
William H Oram Head 21 Fitters(?) Labourer b. N Shields, Northumberland
Annie B M Oram Wife 21 Engine (?) Works b. Langanly, Cumberland
Mary E M Oram Daur 3 Mo b. Newcastle, Northumberland