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wonder if this is the other two in that 1864 marriage note a susanna lees poss niece being employed as servant ?
Pelsall is walsall



William HYDE Head M Male 56 Brewood, Stafford, England Blacksmith
Susannah HYDE Wife M Female 66 Pelsall, Stafford, England
Susannah LEES Servant Female 15 Pelsall, Stafford, England General (Domestic)
George BIGGS Lodger U Male 24 Sutton Coldfield Coal Miner


Chase Terrace Cross St Burntwood Edial & Woodhouses, Stafford

Jimmy wrote:1851 census as George born abt 1829, and a Silas born abt 1835, and a Thomas born abt 1846, with parents John and Eliza, living in Rowley Regis.

That is the one we have on Connections already and dont think that is this one we want.
The one we want is b abt 1834 I think that is his bro Moses next door to him in 1871

so what are we saying losing this now

Northern Lass wrote:

Jimmy wrote:1851 census as George born abt 1829, and a Silas born abt 1835, and a Thomas born abt 1846, with parents John and Eliza, living in Rowley Regis.

That is the one we have on Connections already and dont think that is this one we want.
The one we want is b abt 1834 I think that is his bro Moses next door to him in 1871

so what are we saying losing this now

can you post the 1871 census for moses ?

1871 Cherry Orchard, Rowley
Moses Nock 45 - Miner
Mary Nock 36
Hannah Nock 13
Joseph Nock 12
Theophilus Nock 10
George Nock 7
Jemina Nock 4
Moses Nock 1
all b Rowley

and next door

George Nock 37 - Lab
Maria Nock 39 - Nailmaker
Amd Nock 6
Benjamin Nock 3
Elizabeth Nock 77 - Boarder - (looks like unmarried)
all b Rowley

Poss marriage 1857 NOCK Moses WILLIAMS Mary Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/016/347

I just wonder if that is the Moses on connections here..b 1826
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =871706307
and that other Moses on there is incorrect and should say George
so b abt 1834ish
need to look at that 1841 census
can anyone find it?

here moses in

1881 10 Cherry Orchard Rowley Regis

Moses NOCK 56 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Laborer At Colliery
Mary NOCK 48 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Hannah NOCK 23 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nail Maker
Joseph NOCK 22 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Coal Miner
Silas NOCK 19 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Coal Miner
George NOCK Son U Male 17 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Coal Miner
Jemima NOCK 13 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Moses NOCK 12 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Harry NOCK 7 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar


and i found this poss elizabeth nock age 77 in 1871 might be there mother ? born c 1794

submitted

Moses Nock
Birth: 1825 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

Benjamin Nock
Elizabeth

two poss marriages

extracted

BENJAMIN NOCK
ELIZABETH GRIFFITHS
Marriage: 25 DEC 1817 Old Swinford, Worcester,

submitted

Benjamin Nock
Birth: 1790 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Spouse: Elizabeth
Marriage: 1819 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

Yep I think that Benjamin and Elizabeth are the parents for that Moses and Maria/Mirah /Mary
and that is the mother of Moses and George with George in 1871

so which is the marriage for this george
it isnt the Gill one
is it the Walsall one?

I think that that other Moses is wrong and should say George!
on connections we have 2 moses
and one is correct the other I think is a George


need the marriages sorted..

Poss marriage 1857 NOCK Moses WILLIAMS Mary Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/016/347
and need the one for George as the Gill one is another couple

The 1861 census has,
Cherry Orchard,
Benjamin Nock, head, 74, nailor
Elizabeth, wife, 70, nailor
Mira, daur, 27, nailor
Moses, son, 40, coal miner,
Mary, daur in law, 25, nail maker
Hannah, Grandaughter, 3,
Joseph Granson, 2
All born Rowley

Jo

its not the gill one as jimmy found them in 1881 with her kids from her first marriage living with them i think its poss the walsall one

grangers14 wrote:The 1861 census has,
Cherry Orchard,
Benjamin Nock, head, 74, nailor
Elizabeth, wife, 70, nailor
Mira, daur, 27, nailor
Moses, son, 40, coal miner,
Mary, daur in law, 25, nail maker
Hannah, Grandaughter, 3,
Joseph Granson, 2
All born Rowley

Jo

is george about in 61

Not sure who I'm looking for...

There's this George
1841
The Dock, Dudley
Paul Nock 30 - Tailor/Nailor?
Elizabeth Nock 30
Charlotte Nock 13
George Nock 10
Martha Nock 8 - y b in c
Richard Nock 5 - y b in c
others n b in c

1851 census
Redhal Hill
Benjamin Nock, head, 60, nailor
Elizabeth, wife, nailor
Josiah, son, 25, nailor
Elizabeth, daur, 22, nailor
Maria, daur, 20
Silas, son, 18, chain maker

1841 census,
Redhal hill,
Benjamin Nock, 50, nailor
Elizabeth, 45, nailor
Isaac, 20, nailor
Moses, 15, coal miner
Josiah, 15, nailor
Elizabeth, 13, nailor
Mira, 11
Silas, 9

Next door but one is
Daniel Nock, 60 , nailor
Elizabeth, 60, nailor
Joseph, 20, blacksmith

hmmm so no George on the 1841...have you looked at the image ...deffo no George there?

we have this lot on connections so I need to alter where we are wrong...

1841 Redall hill
Living next door or next door but one to Daniel Nock and Elizabeth -
Benj Nock 50 Nailer
Elizabeth Nock 45
Isaac Nock 20
Moses Nock 15
Josiah Nock 15
Elizabeth Nock 13
(cant read name) Nock 9

1851 Reddall Hill, Rowley
Benjamin Nock 60
Elizabeth Nock 57
Elizabeth Nock 22
Josiah Nock 25
Maria Nock 20
Silas Nock 18 - chain maker
All b Rowley, other nail makers

grangers14 wrote:The 1861 census has,
Cherry Orchard,
Benjamin Nock, head, 74, nailor
Elizabeth, wife, 70, nailor
Mira, daur, 27, nailor
Moses, son, 40, coal miner,
Mary, daur in law, 25, nail maker
Hannah, Grandaughter, 3,
Joseph Granson, 2
All born Rowley

Jo

So that Moses and Mary is the rite one I will link and see what you think