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I am jack Hughes and my link is as follows

grandfather William Samuel Hughes 1884.
grt g/f Alexander Hughes 1853.
2x grt g/f Samuel Hughes 1828.
3x grt g/f Alexander Hughes 1785 and hopefully,
4x grt g/f Thomas Hughes 1761.

I have no certificates after 1853 but have copy of census 1841.
I believe Alexander died 5 nov 1848 but have nothing to confirm this.
in the early 1840 John Hughes gen labourer lived with his family next door to his older brother Joseph who was said to be a furnaceman.

Here are some of the burials:

Alexander Hughes Bapt.10 july 1785, Died 5 nov 1848
Burial : St Andrew"™s, Netherton
Alexander Hughes "“ Abode: Primrose Hill "“ Buried: 5 November 1848 "“ Age: 63 Years

children are.
James bapt.26 april 1807 died after 1861 married Sarah Cartwright c 1810 d 1897 in1830.
Burial: St Andrew"™s, Netherton
James Hughes "“ Abode: Tividale "“ Buried: 22 May 1863 "“ Age: 56 Years
Nothing found in St Andrew"™s 1897 for Sarah (Cartwright) Hughes

Honor bapt. 11 dec 1808 died 1858 married Moses Wright c1800 d1873 in 1833.
Burials: St Andrew"™s, Netherton
Honor Wright "“ Abode: Dudley "“ Buried: 21 October 1858 "“ Age: 49 Years
Moses Wright "“ Abode: Sedgley "“ Buried: 30 March 1873 "“ Age: 87 Years

Joseph bapt.14 april 1811 died 1878 married Francess Cartwright c1801 d 1882.
Burial: St Andrew"™s, Netherton
Joseph Hughes "“ Abode: Primrose Hill "“ Buried: 26 May 1878 "“ Age: 67 Years
Frances Hughes "“ Abode: Netherton "“ Buried: 13 December 1882 "“ Age: 81 Years

Thomas bapt.27 june 1813 died 1879 married Sarah Peake c1813 died after 1891
Burial: St Andrew"™s, Netherton
Thomas Hughes "“ Abode: Netherton "“ Buried: 1 June 1879 "“ Age: 66 Years
Nothing found in St Andrew"™s for Sarah (Peake) Hughes after 1891 who was born c1813

Isaac bapt.17 may 1815 died 12 oct 1887 aged 72 monument st andrews netherton married Catherine Darby c1826 tipton died 7 july 1893 burried st andrews
Burials: St Andrew"™s, Netherton
Isaac Hughes "“ Abode: Old Hill "“ Buried: 16 October 1887 "“ Age: 72 Years
Catherine Hughes "“ Abode: Old Hill "“ Buried: 9 July 1893 "“ Age: 69 Years

John bapt 16 mar 1817 died 3 april 1883 age 67 monument st andrews netherton married Ann Bury c1819 died 23 nov 1882 age 64 buried st andrews.Burials: St Andrew"™s, Netherton
John Hughes "“ Abode: Primrose Hill "“ Buried: 12 April 1883 "“ Age: 66 Years
Ann Hughes "“ Abode: Primrose "“ Buried: 30 November 1882 "“ Age: 64 Years

Alexander bapt.25 dec 1819 born 25 sept died 1891 married Jane Griffiths c 1827 d 1875 in 1847.
Nothing found in St Andrew"™s burials for Alexander died 1891 or Jane Hughes died 1875.

I should have said I have no certificates before 1853,not after.

Ann & john

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Isaac & catherine

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lancashirelad wrote:I am jack Hughes and my link is as follows

grandfather William Samuel Hughes 1884.
grt g/f Alexander Hughes 1853.
2x grt g/f Samuel Hughes 1828.
3x grt g/f Alexander Hughes 1785 and hopefully,
4x grt g/f Thomas Hughes 1761.

I have no certificates after 1853 but have copy of census 1841.
I believe Alexander died 5 nov 1848 but have nothing to confirm this.
in the early 1840 John Hughes gen labourer lived with his family next door to his older brother Joseph who was said to be a furnaceman.

Hi Lancashire Lad thanks for this info I will pop your name on in notes (your username) in notes on the BCC (Black Country Connections) tree
then if anyone sees that and connects they can contact you via this forum always good to find more rellies
I will sticky this and we can work thru it
some really good info

Hi Lancashire Lad can I call you LL

do you by any chance have that 1822 marriage info the full info?
does it say wid for them both?
and wits on marriage

sure you can call me LL (have been called alot worse.

the only record I have is IGI individual record giving names and date of marriage in 1822 with scource of information as,
batch no MO10661 1636-1812 scource call no 1426213 lT 1-2 type film printout call no 0883947.

how do you go about obtaining copies of records prior to 1837 seems to be a number of archive centres and then being able to identify the right one,
hope to eventually visit the area again but what is the most economical way of obtaining records ?.

I note one of your family interests is " Round " and although you may already be aware,the licensees of the Trust To Providence on washington street were-
1864-1883 John Hughes b1817
1883-1886 Joseph Breakwell
1886-1900 Benjamin Round and after he diedhis wife took over.
1900-1904 Elizabeth Round.
also aware members of the Dunn's family lived next door to John on washington street.

Thanks LL

Ok the archives this marriage
Extracted IGI
ALEXANDER HUGHES
Marriages:
Spouse: HANNAH MARIA GRIFFIN
Marriage: 12 SEP 1822 Edgbaston, Warwick

may be at Birmingham archives

The other archives at Smethwick and Dudley and B'ham have a list of holdings on their websites
or they used to.

we can always advise you which archive has what post your look up request query and we can let
you know and some of us have access to transcripts

as a side issue to this thread it would appear BCC numbers for Hughes 38,244 and 246 are connected.
John and Ann are shown to have 6 children there is a possible 7th James c1839.

their daughter born 5 oct 1840 would appear to have variations to her name.Ann m ,Anna Maria,Hannah Maria,but as you show on the 1851 census
it was Anna Maria age 10.
Anna,as recorded married Richard Dunn c1838, and they had 8 children as BCC.
Richards parents were apparently Richard Dunn c 1813 and Elizabeth Taylor c1816.

thank you all for your responses
LL

Sorry not with you

do you mean we need to connect up some?

if so can you give me the name and dob and I can find them pls
so we have Richard dunn and wife here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =917161952

where should she connect to?

LL is this Thomas son of Alexander?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =954822538

further info, Alexander Hughes 1875 and Mary Symkiss son,
John Hughes 1817 and Ann Bury 1819 had amongst their 8 children,
Isaac Thomas Hughes 1849 (Thomas on 1851 census age 1) married Ellanor Ann Hughes c1852,they had 7 children,
John c 1870
Thomas c 1872
Ann c 1874
Lavinia c 1879
Alfred c 1882
Gertrude c 1890
Annie c 1892

Ellanor was the daughter of Samuel Hughes 1828 and Clara Ann Barnsley
census 1911 age 59 29 milroy street edgehill liverpool with Isaac and 2 children.

Samuel Hughes 1828 who was the son of Alexander Hughes 1785 and his 2nd wife Hannah Maria Griffin
had dtr Elenor c 1852 ( BCC Eleanor)
census 1861 with family,Darby & Pargetters colliery
not on census 1871 with family.

does that make Elenor married her half cousin Isaac Thomas ?.

the things you find.

LL

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=67878941

and

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =791470883

are the same LL ?


they seem to be the same john both bricklayer both wife ann and daugter hannah maria / ann maria

Marriage info by Jan
10 January 1858 St Thomas Dudley
-Richard Dunn- minor- bachelor- puddler- Dudley- Richard Dunn- labourer
-Hannah Maria Huges- minor- spinster- dudley- John Hughes - brickmaker
banns
Richard Dunn signed/ X Hannah

who were the witnesses jan ?

1st query,
the entry no on BCC keep changing,at this minute under Hughes
no 40 Anna M c 1841 with parents John 1816 and Ann 1819
no 249 John 1815
no 251 John 1816

these are all the same people.

2nd query.
I have seem this before on BCC but cannot relate to the childrens names,may be a cross over between others family trees.
my first query with you was concerning Thomas Hughes c 1761 and Ann Pearson c 1761 kingswinford,married 1781 when I listed their 11 children, including Alexander 1785.
and my hope of confirming this to be correct before checking info back to 1620.I have not given this info todate so thatit doesnot confuse the issue.

LL