ARC TBC - Joseph Firkin born 1831

[dudleytaylor]

Can not find anything on Joseph Mason or his wife Eliza

[Northern Lass]

Can not find anything on Joseph Mason or his wife Eliza

hmmm no I couldn't either I think that may be the marriage in 1854 Hull sent an email to regis office see wot they say

[Rob]

I've found Mercy Firkin's birth certificate and i've scanned it and sent it to NL.
It states clearly father is Joseph Firkin and mother is Eliza Firkin formerly Roberts.

[Northern Lass]

I've found Mercy Firkin's birth certificate and i've scanned it and sent it to NL.
It states clearly father is Joseph Firkin and mother is Eliza Firkin formerly Roberts.

I couldn't open it!!

Ok heard from Hull that marriage doesnt have father for Eliza as Thomas and doesnt have Josephs father
as Hezekiah or unknown so back to square one

odd isnt it we cant find marriage for them
they may not have married

[Rob]

You couldn't open it!!??
You only wanted it to check that i'd really bought it anyway!!
That was a blind alleyway anyway i think. Joseph Mason and Eliza Roberts.
Do you think this is Eliza Roberts?

1851 Edgar Street,Holy Trinity,Kingston upon Hull
Transcribed as Easter but looks like Esther Roberts head widow 59 formerly Domestic Servant
James Roberts son 29 Shipwright
Eliza Roberts daug 22 Boot Binder
Willm Roberts son 16 Shipwrights Apprentice
All born Hull

1861 43 Alfred Street,Holy Trinity,Kingston upon Hull
Juliane Mason head 48 mar Marine Store Dealer
Elizabeth Mason daug 12 Scholar
Edward Mason son 10 Scholar
Eliza Mason dauginlaw 26 mar Seamans Wife
Amelia Mason granddaug 11 Scholar
Mary Ann Mason granddaug 2 Scholar
William Roberts lodger 26 mar Shipwright
Mary Ann Roberts wife of lodger 24 mar
Ann Roberts daug of lodger 2 scholar
William Roberts son of lodger 5weeks
All born Hull

[dudleytaylor]

Is this any help Eliza Roberts
Baptism 12 July 1829 Oldbury Worcester
Father Thomas Roberts
Mother Ann
Index 101084-0
system England ODM
Source 6085650

Do you not think this might be her.

[Rob]

Yes that's Eliza Roberts associated with Joseph Firkin but i was referring to the Eliza Roberts who married Joseph Mason in Hull 1854.
We need a marriage for Joseph Firkin and Eliza Roberts parents of Mercy Firkin.

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... kin-Family

[dudleytaylor]

So where do these two fit in your tree ,You think there might be a possibility that his real mother was not Marie . No silly she's his mum .Its his dad that might not be hid dad Dt Totally confused but i think i have got it.

[dudleytaylor]

did you know agnes firkins( Zephs daughter) ,joseph's cousin married a mason,but they were from brum.

[Rob]

So where do these two fit in your tree ,You think there might be a possibility that his real mother was not Marie . No silly she's his mum .Its his dad that might not be hid dad Dt Totally confused but i think i have got it.

Mercy Firkin daughter of Joseph and Eliza was my great grand mother.
As NL says maybe Joseph Firkin and Eliza Roberts never married.
Maybe we will never know for certain who Joseph Firkin's parents were?

[Northern Lass]

don't think we can do anymore with this need that marriage
but I have connected up now on Bcc

flagging to archive or I can move to Brickwalls

[dudleytaylor]

I agree, you might never know ,and their are lots of skeletons in lots of cupboards in all familys. Dt

[Rob]

Can we move it to Brickwall please NL?

[dudleytaylor]

Just wonder if this is the Baptism referred to on BCC or another .
23 October 1831
Joseph Firkin
All Saints Church West Bromwich
Father Joseph Firkin
Mother Sarah
COI 024- 3
England-ODM
497 347,497348, 497349,497350 479359.

[dudleytaylor]

so if the names of parents on the baptism are really the grandparents ,then the child would belong to Hezekiah surely.