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Re: John Rhodes Homer

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 2:10 pm
by rockyfowler

Re: John Rhodes Homer

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:09 pm
by Northern Lass
rockyfowler wrote:1st Marriage? Best RF
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... 1009032159


Thanks RF and for other marriages

2 Aug 1879 Llanbeblig Parish Church
John Rhodes HOMER 54 W Iron Moulder Castle Ditch Carnarvon Father Thomas Homer Glass Cutter
Diana MATTHEWS 60 W Castle Ditch Carnarvon Father Isaac Dickson Builder
By License Both Signed
Wit; Joseph Williams / Thomas Morris


24 Aug 1862 St Thomas Dudley
John MATTHEWS F W Mine Inspector Dudley Father John Matthews (Dec) Miner
Dinah BERRYMAN F W Dudley Father Isaac Dixon (Dec) Slater
After Banns Both Signed
Wit; Sarah Ann Hooper / William Hooper X

so something isnt quite right as her father is Isaac Dickson/Dixon
not William Polgase :?

Re: John Rhodes Homer

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:11 pm
by Northern Lass
unless mother married again to Polglase?
1841. Breage,Cornwall.
William Polglase 50. Tin miner.
Ann Polglase 45.
Diana Polglase 14.

All born in county.

Re: John Rhodes Homer

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:34 pm
by peterd
dixon could be right i saw a birth for dixon will try to find it agian

Re: John Rhodes Homer

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:35 pm
by Jimmy
Diana Thomas Polglase..
gender: Female.
baptism/christening date: 22 Apr 1827.
baptism/christening place: BREAGE,CORNWALL.
father's name: Wm. Polglase.
indexing project (batch) number: P01554-1.
system origin: England-ODM.
source film number: 254175, 254176, 254177.

Re: John Rhodes Homer

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:38 pm
by peterd
here this might be Her and her namesake sister to isaac ?


Marriage: 28 Nov 1815 St Michael and All Angels, Hawkskead, Lancashire, England
George Nicholson - of Windermere
Dinah Dixon - of Hawkshead
Witness: George Jackson; Isaac Dixon; Mary Casson
Married by Banns by: Geo: Park, Minister
Source: LDS 1040306



Baptisms: 14 Nov 1819 St Michael and All Angels, Hawkshead, Lancashire, England
Diana Dixon - Daughter of Isaac Dixon & Elizabeth
Abode: Colthouse in Claife
Occupation: Waller
Notes: [Abode was recorded as Crofthead in Claife in Bishops Transcripts]
Baptised by: Geo: Park
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1864 from the Bishop's Transcripts only, Page 38, Entry 302
Source: LDS 1040306

Re: John Rhodes Homer

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:40 pm
by Northern Lass
son is JOhn Dixon Berryman

1851: Morice, Stoke Damerel, Devon
George Berryman 35 Soldier Marr Sergeant 4th Reg of Foot Dudley Worc
Dinah Berryman 31 Wife Of Soldier Hawkshead, Lancashire
Mary Ann Berryman 12 Dau of do Dudley, Worc
George Berryman 4 Son of do Finstock, Tyrone, Ireland
John Dixon Berryman 2 son of do Winchester, Hampshire--note name Dixon
Edwa Berryman 5 Mo son of do Plymouth, Devon


I wonder if her real father is Isaac dixon and mother remarries a Polglase
is there a marriage for wm and ann

that bapt is a late one isnt it

Re: John Rhodes Homer

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:42 pm
by Northern Lass
That looks like her bapt 1819 father a waller Isaac dixon mother elizabeth?

Re: John Rhodes Homer

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:43 pm
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:Diana Thomas Polglase..
gender: Female.
baptism/christening date: 22 Apr 1827.
baptism/christening place: BREAGE,CORNWALL.
father's name: Wm. Polglase.
indexing project (batch) number: P01554-1.
system origin: England-ODM.
source film number: 254175, 254176, 254177.


is this her too or another one?

Re: John Rhodes Homer

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:50 pm
by peterd
Northern Lass wrote:
rockyfowler wrote:1st Marriage? Best RF
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... 1009032159


Thanks RF and for other marriages

2 Aug 1879 Llanbeblig Parish Church
John Rhodes HOMER 54 W Iron Moulder Castle Ditch Carnarvon Father Thomas Homer Glass Cutter
Diana MATTHEWS 60 W Castle Ditch Carnarvon Father Isaac Dickson Builder
By License Both Signed
Wit; Joseph Williams / Thomas Morris


24 Aug 1862 St Thomas Dudley
John MATTHEWS F W Mine Inspector Dudley Father John Matthews (Dec) Miner
Dinah BERRYMAN F W Dudley Father Isaac Dixon (Dec) Slater
After Banns Both Signed
Wit; Sarah Ann Hooper / William Hooper X

so something isnt quite right as her father is Isaac Dickson/Dixon
not William Polgase :?



peterd wrote:here this might be Her


Baptisms: 14 Nov 1819 St Michael and All Angels, Hawkshead, Lancashire, England
Diana Dixon - Daughter of Isaac Dixon & Elizabeth
Abode: Colthouse in Claife
Occupation: Waller
Notes: [Abode was recorded as Crofthead in Claife in Bishops Transcripts]
Baptised by: Geo: Park
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1864 from the Bishop's Transcripts only, Page 38, Entry 302
Source: LDS 1040306




Waller 1) Brick or dry stone wall builder

Re: John Rhodes Homer

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:56 pm
by Northern Lass
altered 1st marriage

that is her with a george Berryman on 1851 and on later census
1851: Morice, Stoke Damerel, Devon
George Berryman 35 Soldier Marr Sergeant 4th Reg of Foot Dudley Worc
Dinah Berryman 31 Wife Of Soldier Hawkshead, Lancashire
Mary Ann Berryman 12 Dau of do Dudley, Worc
George Berryman 4 Son of do Finstock, Tyrone, Ireland
John Dixon Berryman 2 son of do Winchester, Hampshire--note name Dixon
Edwa Berryman 5 Mo son of do Plymouth, Devon

1861: Coombes Gate, Hill, Worc
Dianal Berryman 44 Head W Toll Collector Hawkshead, Lanc
Edward Berryman 10 Son Portsmouth
John Berryman 8 Son Dudley, Wor

1871: 5 London Fields, Dudley, Worc
John Homer 46 Head Moulder Dudley
Dianah Homer 51 Wife Hawkshead, Lancs
Emma Homer 15 Dau Dudley, Worc
John Homer 15 Son Dudley, Worc
John Berryman 13 Son in Law Blacksmith Dudley, Worc


but the marriage in 1847 for a George Berryman and Diana Polglase has father Wm Polgase
with a bapt in 1827 which fits the 1841 for a Diana Polglase

:shock:

any ideas?

Re: John Rhodes Homer

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:02 pm
by peterd
birth in most census is c 1820 with hawkshed place of birth but that birth as elizabeth for mother not ann unless isaac married twice or ann is elizabeth ann or ann elizabeth ?

Re: John Rhodes Homer

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:07 pm
by peterd
is this his death and ann/elizabeth married agian?


Burial: 3 Jun 1832 St Michael and All Angels, Hawkshead, Lancashire, England
Isaac Dixon - Age: 42
Abode: Birmingham
Buried by: Lovick Cooper
Register: Burials 1836 - 1864 from the Bishop's Transcripts only, Page 71, Entry 565
Source: LDS 1040306

reason they moved back to middlands ?

Re: John Rhodes Homer

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:09 pm
by peterd
Northern Lass wrote:unless mother married again to Polglase?
1841. Breage,Cornwall.
William Polglase 50. Tin miner.
Ann Polglase 45.
Diana Polglase 14.

All born in county.



think this is a different dinah ?

Re: John Rhodes Homer

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:12 pm
by peterd
think this is the correct marriage

Marriages Sep 1837

BERRYMAN George Birmingham 16 234
DIXON Dinah Birmingham 16 234


others

CONNOR Ellen Birmingham 16 234
FLETCHER William Birmingham 16 234
HAYES Martha Birmingham 16 234
LOVE Thomas Birmingham 16 234
OWEN Mary Birmingham 16 234
OWEN William Birmingham 16 234