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Re: Ann Davies marries Smith

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:14 pm
by peterd
Thomas Smith
Minah Steventon
28 May 1849, Saint Thomas,Dudley,Worcester,

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M04014-3
System Origin: England-ODM

Re: Ann Davies marries Smith

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:20 pm
by peterd
poss death

SMITH Mirah 1880 - Kingswinford West Midlands Dudley Register Office KIN/063/357


cant find any census though ?

Re: Ann Davies marries Smith

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:36 pm
by Jimmy
peterd wrote:poss death

SMITH Mirah 1880 - Kingswinford West Midlands Dudley Register Office KIN/063/357


Deaths Jun 1880.
Smith Mirah. 44. Stourbridge. 6c. 112.

Re: Ann Davies marries Smith

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:46 pm
by peterd
Jimmy wrote:
peterd wrote:poss death

SMITH Mirah 1880 - Kingswinford West Midlands Dudley Register Office KIN/063/357


Deaths Jun 1880.
Smith Mirah. 44. Stourbridge. 6c. 112.



so poss could be her born c 1826/7

Re: Ann Davies marries Smith

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:51 pm
by Jimmy
Born about 1836.

Re: Ann Davies marries Smith

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:26 pm
by peterd
Jimmy wrote:Born about 1836.


yeh about 1836

think that marriage needs looking up

Re: Ann Davies marries Smith

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:11 pm
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:Poss,
1841. Primrose.
Ann Smith 25. Nailer.
William Smith 13.
Mary Smith 12.
Samuel Smith 9.
George Smith 7.


Is that age correct for Ann? or is that another Ann?

Do you think that is our Ann Davies? b abt 1808 and age on 1841 is way out?

Then this lot in 1851 the sibs with maybe Francis as son of Mary the dau

1851. Primrose Hill, Dudley.
William Smith 23. Head. Widow. Coalminer.
Mary Smith 21. Sister.
Samuel Smith 19. Brother.
Francis Smith 3. Bro in law.

Re: Ann Davies marries Smith

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:29 pm
by peterd
Northern Lass wrote:
Jimmy wrote:Poss,
1841. Primrose.
Ann Smith 25. Nailer.
William Smith 13.
Mary Smith 12.
Samuel Smith 9.
George Smith 7.


Is that age correct for Ann? or is that another Ann?

Do you think that is our Ann Davies? b abt 1808 and age on 1841 is way out?

Then this lot in 1851 the sibs with maybe Francis as son of Mary the dau

1851. Primrose Hill, Dudley.
William Smith 23. Head. Widow. Coalminer.
Mary Smith 21. Sister.
Samuel Smith 19. Brother.
Francis Smith 3. Bro in law.



that 1841 census could of said age 29 ? then not far out ?

Re: Ann Davies marries Smith

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:59 am
by Northern Lass
will start to add some of this in a min........

Re: Ann Davies marries Smith

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:00 am
by Northern Lass
Ok this is a Francis Smith birth
1848
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
SMITH Francis Dudley (DUD) Dudley Register Office DUD/032/293

so only one around that time in Dudley

Then on Marriage of a Francis Smith to Diana Willetts father is a William Smith
age on marriage 23 so could be our Francis

The marriage for Thomas Smith and Minah/Jemima is the one on Bcc I think with father George
poss mistranscribed
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =770401264

Re: Ann Davies marries Smith

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:04 am
by Northern Lass
The thomas Smith on free bmd marries here 1850
ARCHER Mary A SMITH Thomas West Bromwich, All Saints Sandwell Register Office 22/5/115

SIMCOX Jemima BARNES Samuel West Bromwich, All Saints Sandwell Register Office 22/5/116

so i think it is Jemima and mistrans as Minah will add to her with note

but still dont know if Thomas links to Ann Davies only living next door in 1851

Re: Ann Davies marries Smith

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:09 am
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:1851. Primrose Hill, Dudley.
Samuel Davis 45. Coal miner.
Elizabeth Davis 42.
Samuel Davis 12. Son.
Sarah Davis 10. Dau.
Elizabeth Davis 8. dau.
Thomas Davis 5. Son.
Job Davis 3. Son.
George Smith 17. Relation. Labourer.
Matilda Evans 15. Serv.
Esther Davis 6 Mo. Dau.


That works then doesnt it if Samuel is brother of ann
and then son George with Samuel
and then lodger in 1861

Re: Ann Davies marries Smith

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:46 am
by Northern Lass
without the birth certif for Francis Smith I cant add him as son of anyone

on marriage he puts father Wm Smith
but on census he is down as bro in law to Wm Smith
so that sounds like son of Mary?

what do you think?

Re: Ann Davies marries Smith

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:10 am
by Northern Lass
added more bapts in I think father is a francis cant find a marriage though to ann davies