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peterd wrote:poss marriages no help ?

KITE John THOMAS Ellen 1869 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/027/190

PERRY Ellen THOMAS Samuel 1860 Quarry Bank, Christ Church West Midlands Dudley Register Office 016/001/131

poss sarah and ellen sisters ? or her un wed mother ?


Marriage 17 Dec 1860, St Andrew, Netherton
Joseph Knight, F, Wid, Miner, of Netherton, Father John Knight, Glassmaker
Sarah Williams, F, Wid, of Netherton, Father John Perry, Shingler
Wit : John Malton and Ann Malton

Forget that one Pete! I think this is them...

1851: Quarry Bank, Kingswinford, Staffs
Thomas William 37 Head Coalminer
Sarah William 38 Wife
Elen William 10 Dau
David William 6 Son
Farley William 4 Son
Thomas William 1 Son Kingswinford
(others born Oldswinford)

is this ellen perry ?

peterd wrote:

Forget that one Pete! I think this is them...

1851: Quarry Bank, Kingswinford, Staffs
Thomas William 37 Head Coalminer
Sarah William 38 Wife
Elen William 10 Dau
David William 6 Son
Farley William 4 Son
Thomas William 1 Son Kingswinford
(others born Oldswinford)

is this ellen perry ?

one of two poss marriages


PERRY Sarah WILLIAMS Thomas 1838 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/002/102
PERRY Sarah WILLIAMS Thomas 1844 Oldswinford, St Mary West Midlands Dudley Register Office 003/002/296


poss the second one as ellen perry would be williams on marriage cert unless they married twice ?

Totally confused on this now...

Looked up by Rockyfowler

Marriage 23 Dec 1838 St Thomas Dudley
Thomas WILLIAMS O W Old Mill Street Dudley Father William Williams
Sarah Perry O W Old Mill Street Father Thomas Gough Labourer
After Banns Thomas Signed The X Of Sarah
Wit; William Shaw Harriet Perry

Where does this fit in, if at all?

mallosa wrote:Totally confused on this now...

Looked up by Rockyfowler

Marriage 23 Dec 1838 St Thomas Dudley
Thomas WILLIAMS O W Old Mill Street Dudley Father William Williams
Sarah Perry O W Old Mill Street Father Thomas Gough Labourer
After Banns Thomas Signed The X Of Sarah
Wit; William Shaw Harriet Perry

Where does this fit in, if at all?

think its this second one san poss two thomas and sarah marrying

PERRY Sarah WILLIAMS Thomas 1844 Oldswinford, St Mary West Midlands Dudley Register Office 003/002/296





this is the above first marriage

SARAH GOUGH
WILLIAM PERRY
Marriage: 09 APR 1832 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick

mallosa wrote:Totally confused on this now...

Looked up by Rockyfowler

Marriage 23 Dec 1838 St Thomas Dudley
Thomas WILLIAMS O W Old Mill Street Dudley Father William Williams
Sarah Perry O W Old Mill Street Father Thomas Gough Labourer
After Banns Thomas Signed The X Of Sarah
Wit; William Shaw Harriet Perry

Where does this fit in, if at all?

this is the above first marriage

SARAH GOUGH
WILLIAM PERRY
Marriage: 09 APR 1832 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick

dont think these marriage belong on this thread


we need details of this as i think this sarah father john note married oldswiniford same as kids were born

PERRY Sarah WILLIAMS Thomas 1844 Oldswinford, St Mary West Midlands Dudley Register Office 003/002/296

I've added it for a look up Pete, thanks

thomas and sarah poss 1844 oldswinford so ellen is ellen perry not williams

1851: Quarry Bank, Kingswinford, Staffs
Thomas William 37 Head Coalminer
Sarah William 38 Wife
Elen William 10 Dau
David William 6 Son
Farley William 4 Son
Thomas William 1 Son Kingswinford
(others born Oldswinford)

PERRY Ellen THOMAS Samuel 1860 Quarry Bank, Christ Church West Midlands Dudley Register Office 016/001/131

KITE John THOMAS Ellen 1869 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/027/190

could do we marriage look up above to prove below

so therefore david and herbert are ellen kite half brothers

eliza perry poss born out of wedlock before se married samuel thomas

peterd wrote:1871; 40 paridise, Dudley

John Kite 29 coal miner, dudley
Ellen Kite 30 dudley
Eliza Perry 11 step daug quarry bank
David Williams 24 unm lodger coal miner, stourbridge
Herbert Williams 18 unm lodger coal miner, quarry bank

think this how it goes san

Samuel Thomas.
Groom's Birth Date: 1836.
Groom's Age: 24.
Bride's Name: Ellen Perry.
Bride's Birth Date: 1840.
Bride's Age: 20.
Marriage Date: 26 Aug 1860.
Marriage Place: Quarry-Bank, Stafford.
Groom's Father's Name: Saml Thomas.
Bride's Father's Name: Blank.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I01348-7.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1040915.
Reference Number: 131.

Jimmy wrote:Samuel Thomas.
Groom's Birth Date: 1836.
Groom's Age: 24.
Bride's Name: Ellen Perry.
Bride's Birth Date: 1840.
Bride's Age: 20.
Marriage Date: 26 Aug 1860.
Marriage Place: Quarry-Bank, Stafford.
Groom's Father's Name: Saml Thomas.
Bride's Father's Name: Blank.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I01348-7.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1040915.
Reference Number: 131.

so a good possibility sarah perry is her mother

wonder who the witnesses are?

Extracted,
JOHN KITE.
ELLEN THOMAS OR WILLIAMS.
Marriage. 18 OCT 1869. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.

peterd wrote:

Jimmy wrote:Samuel Thomas.
Groom's Birth Date: 1836.
Groom's Age: 24.
Bride's Name: Ellen Perry.
Bride's Birth Date: 1840.
Bride's Age: 20.
Marriage Date: 26 Aug 1860.
Marriage Place: Quarry-Bank, Stafford.
Groom's Father's Name: Saml Thomas.
Bride's Father's Name: Blank.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I01348-7.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1040915.
Reference Number: 131.

so a good possibility sarah perry is her mother

wonder who the witnesses are?

extracted


ELLEN PERRY
Christening: 23 SEP 1840 Old Swinford, Worcester,

Mother: SARAH PERRY

There is this Ellen Perry,
1841. Mill St, Oldswinford.
Saras Perry 22. Ind.
John Perry 20.
Eliza Perry 18.
Joseph Perry 16.
Ellen Perry 10 Mo.

All born in county.

poss extracted

JOSEPH PERRY
Christening: 23 MAY 1824 Old Swinford, Worcester, England


Father: JOHN PERRY
Mother: HANNAH

Thanks a lot Jimmy and Pete, I've added those marriage for look ups

This is what we have now -

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ams-Family

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... rry-Family

not adding any more until we get those marriage confirmed