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Thanks for all the 1881 connections Pete, that all seems to fit as does the Bap of Kerenhappuch 1813 to John and Jemima, anyone found the Marriage yet? Later linell.

Think most of this is on now thank you linell...

here is the link
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Indigogirl you have

1875 SMART Lavinia THOMPSON George Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/5/127

dont think the aboves correct

as 1881 living next door to parents one side brothers other side

1881 census

7 Park St Rowley Regis,

James PRIEST 40 Cradley, Worcester, Carter
Lavinia PRIEST 39 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Dressmaker
George T. PRIEST 19 Cradley, Worcester, W Houseman
Sarah J. PRIEST 12 Cradley, Worcester, Scholar

poss marriage

PRIEST James SMART Lavinia 1863 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/021/240


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anyone find them on 1871 census

1871: High Street, Cradley, Worcs

James Priest 30 H Forgeman Cradley, Worcs
Levina Priest 28 W Rowley Regis, Staffs
George F Priest 7 Son Cradley, Worcs
Sarah J Priest 2 Dau Cradley, Worcs

1881: above

1891: Reddall Hill Rd, R/Regis

James Priest 50 H Ironworker
Levinna Priest 50 W
George F Priest 26 Son M Warehouse Man
Sarah Jane Whittley 22 Dau M R/Regis
Fred Arthur Whittley 3 G.Son R/Regis

Marriages Dec 1887

BRAGG Amy Margaret Dudley 6c 185
PRIEST Sarah Jane Dudley 6c 185
Silvers William Aston Dudley 6c 185
Whitley Frank Arthur Dudley 6c 185

hi indigogirl. Haven't been on this site for a week as I've spent a lot of time at R. Hall hospital visiting my mom. I have a Raycord/Record and Smarts in my tree. In fact if they are the same lot of Smarts I have a wonderful family photo taken c1902 at Cradley Heath with my 2xgt gd father Eli Foley. John Henry Raycord 1869 married Amelia Probert.

Just had a look in my tree and I have Sarah Ann Raycord b1843 daughter of John (born Quinton 1824) and Mary née Pearson. Could she be yours? Don't have a partner for her.7 other sibs including John Henry. She was the eldest and he the youngest as far as I know.

Also got a Daniel Woodhall c1839 who married Sarah Ann Foley(my gt gd aunt) in 1885. He was her 2nd husband, the first being Samuel Smart in 1868.

What a great response from everyone. Thanks.

I'm going to take a little time to read, digest and consult my information before I reply

silver surfer- Sarah Ann is my gg grandmother (m Joseph Smart b1848) They moved to London between 1881-91. I'd love to see the photo!

What a great start!

The census records linell found are the ones I have.

I'm feeling a bit guilty I wasn't around to say I knew there was (at least) 2 James Smarts in the same place at the same time - the other obvious one is the one married to Phebe Darby.

The Elizabeth isn't a transcription error in 1861 - the record says Elizth. I have wondered if this was actually her name and she took Kerenhappuch as she liked it. The name recurs throughout branches of the family. My ggmother was a Keren as was one of her daughters.

I whittled down the following from the IGI bapts

BAPTISMS _IGI
Stafford
KERRENHAPPUCH CARTWRIGHT
Christening:
21 NOV 1813 Brierley Hill, Stafford, England
Parents:
Father: JOB CARTWRIGHT Family
Mother: ANNE

Or

KERENHAPPUCH RILEY
Christening:
29 AUG 1813 Saint Marys, Handsworth, Stafford, England
Parents:
Father: JOHN RILEY Family
Mother: JEMIMA
Source Information:
C098671 1805 - 1825 0426554

or

Worcester:
KERENAPHUCK WILLETTS
Christening:
18 APR 1813 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England
Parents:
Father: EDWD. WILLETTS Family
Mother: HANNAH
Source Information:
C040143 1813 - 1820

(I ruled out Keranhappuch Steventon as she married some one else)

So the Jemima baptism means the RILEY is the most likely?!

peterd - Thanks for correcting Lavinia for me. Always obvious after the event. You are quite right - 2 of her brothers are living in the same street as their parents. I'm still looking at all the other information you provided. Thanks again
and
mallosa- thanks for the Census records- the mistrans of her name as Levina probably didn't help my search at the time.

For completeness Kerenhappuch died 1890
but James can be found in 1901 Class: RG12; Piece: 2282; Folio 107; Page 46;
Living with sons (William)Edward and Daniel and family

I also have this Witness information (provided by someone else)

WILLIAM GRIFFITHS born about 1820, married
PHEBE SMART - daughter of Joseph and Mary SMART from
Darby End, at St Thomas' Church, Dudley, on 22nd
August 1841. The witnesses were James Smart and
Karenhappuch* Smart.

Thanks all.

So....amongst all the extensive searching did anyone turn up a marriage??

Send me a pm. with your email address and I'll send you the photo.

Updated as far as i know what needs going on

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Thanks Peterd
Just flagging this unless otherwise advised this topc will be moved to archived section within 24 hrs
SS have alerted Indigogirl to your photo offer
let me know if you wish me to give her your email addy