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West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1878
PLANT George ROUND Eliza Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/006/385

1881. 89 Tat Bank Road, Oldbury
George Plant, head, 25, Chemical labourer
Eliza, wife, 22
Thomas, son, 2
All born Oldbury

1891. Tat Bank Road, Oldbury
George Plant, head, 35, Muratic? Acid maker
Eliza, wife, 32
Thomas, son, 12,
George E, son, 8
John, son, 3,
All born Oldbury

Transcribed as Plaut looks like Plant
1901. Tat Bank, Oldbury
George Plant, 45,? acid towerman
Eliza, wife, 42,
Thomas, son, 22, Steam engine fitter
John, son, 12,
All born Oldbury

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Is this Mary Ann Timmins Dennis?

1901. 3 BK 21 Hume Street, Smethwick
George H Sewell, head, 31, Iron Worker, Oldbury
Mary A, wife, 29, West Bromwich
William H, son, 6,
Ernest, son, 4,
Harry, son, 2,
Ethel, daur, 5 months
All others born in Smethwick

Yes, granger14, that's the family. Here they are in 1911:

SEWELL, George Henry Head Married M 41,1870 Ironworker Oldbury Worcester
SEWELL, Emily Wife Married F 34,1877 Attercliffe Sheffield
SEWELL, William Henry Son Single M 16, 1895 Stamper Smethwick Staffs
SEWELL, Ernest Son M 14,1897 Stamp Driver For Above Smethwick Staffs
SEWELL, Harry Son M 12, 1899 Smethwick Staffs
SEWELL, Ethel Harriet Daughter F 10, 1901 Smethwick Staffs
KNIGHT, Josephine Emily Visitor F 7, 1904 Oldbury Worcester
SEWELL, Doris Daughter F 7, 1904, Smethwick Staffs
SEWELL, George Geoff Son M 3, 1908 Smethwick Staffs
SEWELL, Fanny Daughter F 2, 1909 sSmethwick Staff
SEWELL, Joseph Williams Son M 0 (4 MONTHS), 1911, Smethwick Staffs
SWALLOW, William Henry Visitor Married M 58,1853 Steel Worker Attercliffe Sheffield
Address:
28 Grantham Road Smethwick

Ok thanks Dennis.
Is this right for William and Mary Ann? Just wondering because we have a date of birth on BCC and it says born Longton Staffordshire and census is all showing London and Mary Ann younger?

1841. Chapel Road, Halesowen
William Plant, 30, Coal Miner
Mary Ann, 25,
James, 11,
Matthew, 3
All not born in County

1851. Stone Street, Oldbury
William Plant, head, 44, Coal Miner,
Marann, wife, 41, NK London
James, son, 21,
Matthew, son, 5,
Ester Ann, daur, 3
All others born Tipton

Transcribed as Plaut looks like Plant
1861. BK 35 Stour Street, Lady Wood, Birmingham
Mary Ann, head, Mar, 46, School Mistress, London
Matthew, son, 22, Labourer, Dudley Port
Harriett, daur, 16,
Mary Ann, daur, 14,
Henry Jenkins, Lodger, 19, Fitter & Engine Turner, Soho London
Edward Jenkins, lodger, 9, Birmingham

1871. 10 Harborne Terrave, Stour Street, Lady Wood
Mary Ann Plant, head, W, 60, London, Middlesex
/Edward Biddle, lodger, 19, Boat Builder, Birmingham
Thomas Monaghan, Lodger, 30, Gun Stoker, Helkinson?
George Summers, Lodger, 17, Iron Foundry Labourer, Worcestershire

1871. 21 Vauxhall? Terrace?, Aston
Matthew Plant, head, 32, Labourer (Railway) Dudley Port
Louisa, wife, 26, Pearl button maker, Birmingham
Ada Florence, daur, 1, Birmingham
William James, son, 9 months, Aston
? G lodger, 18, Engine cleaner, Egginton? Derbyshire
Catherine, lodger, 18, servant, Whittington, Derbyshire

1881. 5 Harbourne ? Lady Wood
Matthew Plant, head, 42, Foundry Labourer, Dudley
Louisa, wife, 36,
William J, son, 10,
Ada F, daur, 12,
Alice M, daur, 8,
Matthew, son, 6,
Samuel, son, 4,
Louisa, daur, 1,
All others born Birmingham

1891. 3 Ho 10 Court Shakespear Road, Lady Wood
Matthew Plant, head, 52, Iron Labourer, Dudley
Louisa, wife, 46,
Alice Maud, daur, 18, Confectioners worker
Matthew, son, 15, Rivet Boy
Samuel, son, 13, Jeweller
Louisa, daur, 11,
Amelia, daur, 9
Frank, son, 7,
Lizzie, daur, 5,
Frederick, son, 2
All others born Birmingham

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I agree, grangers 14, it is odd! William's age varies in the censuses, 1811 fits the IGI, which 1841 says; 1851 suggests 1807. And yes, Mary Ann seems to have been born in London rather than Longton. Her age: born 1816 according to the 1841 census; 1810 acc. to the 1851; 1861 census born 1815; 1871 born 1811. I've no solution really. People sometimes trimmed off a year or two for the purposes of the marriage market, but that wouldn't explain it here!

The 1911 census is no less strange for Louisa Plant née Bache. Born London? And I have no daughter Ellen!:

EALES, Mark Head Married M 53 1858 General Letterpress Printer Birmingham
EALES, Ellen Wife Married 11 years F 38 1873 Wolverhampton
PLANT, Louisa Mother In Law Widow F 66 1845 London
TRUMAN, Lilian Boarder Single F 18 1893 Printer Platers Hand Birmingham

Address: 135 Constitution Hill Birmingham

Do you have the mariage info fo William and Mary Ann, may be the witnesses might help?

1841 census ages were meant to be rounded down, looks like they did so I wouldnt count 1841. I dont think we can have that birth in for her though...

Name: William Plant
Gender: Male
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Hart
Marriage Date: 21 Jun 1830
Marriage Place: Tipton, Staffordshire, England

That's all I have, no church or witnesses!

Rocky Fowler has looked up 2 of the marriages, Thank you

18th March 1878, St Edmund, Dudley
George Plant, 22, B, Labourer, Dudley, John Plant, Miner
Eliza Round, 19, S, Dudley, Thomas Round, Labourer
Banns
Both signed.
Witnesses:- Benjamin Dudley. Sarah Dudley

4th September 1871. St Thomas, Dudley
William Timmins, 22, B, Labourer, Dudley, Edward Timmins, dead, Boat Loader
Harriet Plant, 22, S, Dudley, John Plant, dead, Miner
Banns
William signed, X of Harriet
Witnesses:- Joseph Skidmore. Mercy Ann Timmins

Many thanks! WMBMD gives that first marriage 18th March 1878 as having been at St Edmund's, Dudley.

grangers14 wrote:Rocky Fowler has looked up 2 of the marriages, Thank you

18th March 1878, St Thomas, Dudley
George Plant, 22, B, Labourer, Dudley, John Plant, Miner
Eliza Round, 19, S, Dudley, Thomas Round, Labourer
Banns
Both signed.
Witnesses:- Benjamin Dudley. Sarah Dudley

4th September 1871. St Thomas, Dudley
William Timmins, 22, B, Labourer, Dudley, Edward Timmins, dead, Boat Loader
Harriet Plant, 22, S, Dudley, John Plant, dead, Miner
Banns
William signed, X of Harriet
Witnesses:- Joseph Skidmore. Mercy Ann Timmins

Jo just recheck that marriage at the top you may find it says St Edmunds Dudley

Sorry my heads in the shed!
I have corrected it.
Jo

I think I have added it all

Some mariage look ups we are waiting on.
Archive for now Dennis?
Jo

Well done jo

are we ok to archive Dennis?

Yep - very many thanks to you all!