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Re: Detheridge Family
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:13 pm
by grangers14
Northern Lass wrote:I have added in bapts
the only one where there is a discrepancy is Edward 13 or 23 for bapt
can someone add in 1871 census pls on family ie notes of Joseph just to show where kids are pls
I have added it in and also added the census and the other children on the Newey family.
Jo

Re: Detheridge Family
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:17 pm
by Northern Lass
zircon wrote:Therer is a refernce to a harry shaw on ancestry , his war record which states he married sarah elizabeth jewkes in dudley in 1907 but by the time he enlists he lives at 5 hereford square high st saltley birmingham his occupation is given as warehouse man
in 1911 his address is 65 goodrich st nechells bham married for 3 years no children occupation warehouseman fender and fire irons
re thomas shaw i cant identify him prior to 1881 , his occupations are given as 1881 drayman 1891 boileryard labourer 1901 time keeper and watchan all thirty years lived at 54 vicars st dudley which in 1871 is the address of eliza nicklin josephs detheridges mother in law
i wonder who was living in the house in 1911
it looks like susannah died in mar 1903 in dudley age 80
there are 2 thomas shaw deaths both age 71 one in 1901 and 1905 the one in 1905 looks like him
possible marriage
1907
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
SHAW Harry JEWKES Sarah E Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/043/392
Deaths Mar 1903
SHAW Susannah 80 Dudley 6c 53
Re: Detheridge Family
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:19 pm
by grangers14
Also added 1911 on Susannah
1911 Census: 54 Vicar St. Dudley.
Susannah SHAW hd. Widow. 74 b.Dudley
Re: Detheridge Family
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:17 pm
by Northern Lass
so that isnt her death then I will amend
Re: Detheridge Family
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:23 pm
by grangers14
It cant be? Its the same address and right age in 1911. I havent seen another death record though.
Jo

Re: Detheridge Family
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:05 pm
by Northern Lass
marriage for Harry Shaw checks out
thanks to RF
added here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =774360340
Re: Detheridge Family
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:24 pm
by Northern Lass
zircon wrote:Hi all
I have seen a lot of information about the Detheridge family from Dudley
Up until about 15 years ago i knew nothing about them, until my father was contacted by the salvation army to say he was the cousin of a Gittins who had passed away
In clearing out the belongings he came across a family bible/tree that contained lots of information
Jospeh Detheridge married Susannah Nicklin as we know their children where
Eliza born 24 May 1858 died 23 May 1862
Hannah b 9 4 1860 no further info
Maria b 14 4 1863 in Constition Hill married John Charles Gittins b 31 8 1863
Edward b 13 4 1865 d 8 1 1873
Daniel b 16 8 1868
amongst the effects where a reference to a Harry Shaw which is after some investigation we know susannna married thomas Shaw
John Charles Gittins sister Sarh married a George Gamson b1862 this is where we come into it one of George sisters married my Great grandfather
I do have some dates of births and deaths etc mainly for the Gittins/Gmson families
I hope this opens up a few brick walls for people
regards
rob
added marriages for JOhn Gittins and sister Sarah
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =203008426if you have info on father Thomas and dob and who he married that would be great
and if you are able to cf that George GAmson sister is margaret and married your rellie Vaughan we can add that in too
Re: Detheridge Family
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:04 am
by zircon
Good morning
i am suprised at the speed this has been dealt with and the enthusiasm
GAMSON Margaret A VAUGHAN John C Tipton
is correct he was my great grandfather
as regards the correct date of edward i can only wait till i can see the original documents again to clarify this
harry shaws war documents on ancestry give date of marriage august 5th 1907 parish church dudley
as regards susannah i assumed she had passed away by 199 ...good find i had looked but could not find her
i will get the dates of marriages and put them on here
regards rob
Re: Detheridge Family
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:23 am
by zircon
on ancestry i still cant find susannah shaw
Re: Detheridge Family
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:09 am
by zircon
why on ancestry cant i find the people im looking for?
susannah shaw is not to be found
another family is walter cutler born 1870 west bromwich after 1891 i cant find him or the family
i can see them at 1911cenusu.co.uk but not on ancestry.co.uk
Re: Detheridge Family
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:46 am
by linell
Some Census's are incomplete, have been lost or damaged, but a lot of the spelling of names are wrong, try a wild card search.
HTH Linell.
Re: Detheridge Family
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:30 am
by Northern Lass
Hi Zircon
we do tend to get a bit carried away
but when we find connections we like to explore.
the marriage for Harry is correct I have viewed the certif at St Thomas Dudley
Do you have the correct dob pls for some of these I can add in to Bcc
Re: Detheridge Family
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:03 pm
by Northern Lass
zircon wrote:Good morning
i am suprised at the speed this has been dealt with and the enthusiasm
GAMSON Margaret A VAUGHAN John C Tipton
is correct he was my great grandfather
as regards the correct date of edward i can only wait till i can see the original documents again to clarify this
harry shaws war documents on ancestry give date of marriage august 5th 1907 parish church dudley
as regards susannah i assumed she had passed away by 199 ...good find i had looked but could not find her
i will get the dates of marriages and put them on here
regards rob
Hi Zircon do you have the dob pls for Margaret and for John Vaughan
and dob for Thomas father of Margaret
re Walter Cutler do you want to open a new thread for him?
Re: Detheridge Family
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:46 pm
by Northern Lass
flagging to archive this one if we are all done with it