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I think its added as best as I can. Confirmation from look uos will help I think.

I havent found a connection to Joseph Turner and Hannah Rollason as yet?

Archive pending look ups?
Jo

Thanks for adding all this jo

Carolina I think we have gone as far as we can at the moment
I have connected up Hannah Rollinson but not that happy about it.need that maybe as a new topic to run with.
Lucy Rollason/Rollinson marries an Edward Hampton
and Hannah calls dau Lucy ..............just something doesn't feel right.

so flagging to archive

Great efforts all round and sorry it's such a mystery. You've disccovered that a Hannah Rollason seems to link to the Hamptons both as neighbour and a witness - interesting but sadly it's not conclusive. I am puzzled about the absence of any Rollason births to Joseph and Hannah between the 1814 marriage and Hannah and Phebe so something is not right. At some point in the future I will have a look at the Joseph/Hannah 1814 marriage record in Dudley (and also Moses/Phebe) but it won't be just yet.

I think there is something in the Moses name being used for Moses Turner. Don't know about the Lucy bit - other than Lucy was Joseph Turner's first wife's name too - could have been his choice.

Suppose the frustration is part of the fun?

carolina wrote:Have only recently returned to this one but sadly I have far too many gaps and guesses at the moment. I was working around this marriage from 25 Dec 1839 St Th:

Joseph Turner widower full age miner
Hannah Rollason minor both from Netherton

fathers: John Turner deceased nailor; Joseph Rollason deceased miner

witnesses: Moses and Hannah Hampton

The "Moses" name was of interest in that the couple's first child was Moses Turner. These witnesses could be the bride's mother and either uncle or grandfather Moses.

There is a Joseph Rolinson/Hannah Hampton marriage 24 October 1814 which would fit - I've not had chance to check to see if the witnesses help here. I've not found Hannah Rollason's christening either. (That's why I turned to looking at the Hamptons - and anyone calling their children Moses or Phoebe en route.)

Of the Hampton children listed, Moses is visible on censuses in Netherton, while Zachariah moves to the Bristol area. I have yet to confirm Hannah with dtr Phebe Golding (previously Rolinson) in 1861 is the "right" one.

My interest stems from the Turners - and a marriage link with a Griffiths family on BCC.

So JO and Carolina just for interest which Hamptons are Joseph Turner and Hannah neighbours with? on which census pls

and Carolina you mention a link to the Griffiths on bcc
can you highlight which one and we can run with it pls

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =234538198

carolina wrote:Great efforts all round and sorry it's such a mystery. You've disccovered that a Hannah Rollason seems to link to the Hamptons both as neighbour and a witness - interesting but sadly it's not conclusive. I am puzzled about the absence of any Rollason births to Joseph and Hannah between the 1814 marriage and Hannah and Phebe so something is not right. At some point in the future I will have a look at the Joseph/Hannah 1814 marriage record in Dudley (and also Moses/Phebe) but it won't be just yet.

I think there is something in the Moses name being used for Moses Turner. Don't know about the Lucy bit - other than Lucy was Joseph Turner's first wife's name too - could have been his choice.

Suppose the frustration is part of the fun?

Trouble is there weren't any bapts were there so we don't know that they didnt have kids earlier

This is how the 1841 census runs...Netherton Hill


(Page18 schedule 23)

Richard Rolinson, 53, Bricklayer
Florence, 50,
Henry, 14, bricklayers Ap
Felena? 12
/? Jones, 17, Bricklayers ap

Edward Hampton 75, Nailer
Lucy, 60
/Richard Taylor, 25, Miner
Emma, 25,
Benjamin, 4,
George, 2

Stephen Grainger, 50, nailer
Amelia, 45
Sarah, 20, nailer
Joseph, 15, nailer
Phebe, 15, nailer
Stephen, 10,
Abraham, 7
John, 5

James Hampton, 45, Miner
Ann, 45,
Esther, 15,
Mary, 11,
Ann, 9
Silvia, 6
John, 4
Joseph, 2

(Page 19 schedule 24)

Samuel Bedall ? , 40 Nailer
Sarah, 40
William, 15, nailer
Joseph, 15, Furnaceman
Esther, 14,
John, 10,
Moses, 9
Sarah, 7

Tobias Spittle, 55, ?
Nancy, 55,
Elizabeth, 20,
Arthur, 14, nailer
/Tobias Danks, 3

James Spittle, 35, ? m
Mary, 30,
Esther, 7,
Moses, 5
James, 3,
Mary, 1

Phebe Hampton, 60,
Moses, 25, Nailer
/John Savinger? 25, Lab

William Turner, 30, Lab
Mary, 30

(Page 20 schedule 24)

Hannah Rollason, 45, nailer
Phebe, 13, Nailer

James Smart, 25, Lab
Eliza, 30,
Elizabeth, 2 months
(possibly same house?)
John Hampton, 35, Shoe Maker
Hannah, 30,
Abigail, 6,
John, 2 months

George Spittle, 30, ?
Elizabeth, 25,

Benjamin Danks, 25, miner
Sarah, 20,
Mary, 10 months

Moses Spittle, 60, Nail Factor
Ann Elwell, 50, FS
Sarah Gile, 14, FS

Zachariah Spittle, 40, ?
Isabella, 40,
Mary, 20 Nailer
John, 15, nailer
Samuel, 15, nailer
Zacharia? 11 Miner
Isabella, 2
/Sarah Ba?ter, 60, nailer

Looked up by Maggie, Thank you.

Enoch Hampton Christening? St Thomas Dudley 5th August 1804
19th August 1804
Enoch, Son of James and Mary Hampton


Buriel St Thomas 1st December 1805 Parents James Hampton.
Mary Heathcock
Enoch, Son of James and Mary Hampton

Enoch Hampton Christening 5th May 1805 St Thomas Dudley
Parents Moses Hampton Phebe Fisher
Enoch, Son of Moses and Phebe Hampton


And

St Thomas, Dudley, 22 APR 1794
Moses Hampton, of this Parish, Bachelor
Phebe Fisher, of the same, Single
Wit : Joseph Stokes and Joseph Bond

Clears a few things up!
Jo

are you still needing this here jo?

I ahve added it.
Not sure what Carolina wants to do or if she has seen it?
Jo

grangers14 wrote:I ahve added it.
Not sure what Carolina wants to do or if she has seen it?
Jo

send her a pm and then we can move it tomoz if all done with it

flagging to archive