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Re: George Edwards and Joseph Edwards
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:59 am
by mumbles
I did not have that one Nl
I have all others but it is slow work and cannot get on bcc at moment
Re: George Edwards and Joseph Edwards--Mumbles sorting
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:30 am
by mumbles
With assistance of NL and marriage details I have connected George Edwards and Joseph Edwards to parents :-
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=14926971Also connected George William Edwards and Sarah Brooks to parents :-
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnectionsAlso connected Jabez Skipton to Henry Skipton :-
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =811994710This still leaves question of relationship between Edwards and Skipton and Woodward families which I have not resolved
1871 Census Blackheath Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
George Edwards Head 34 Coal Miner
Sarah Edwards wife 30
Jabez Edwards son 9 Scholar born Oldbury Worcs.
Mary A. Edwards dau 7 Scholar born Halesowen Worcs.
William Edwards son 4 Scholar born Halesowen Worcs.
Samuel Edwards son 1mth
Hannah Skipton Cousin 20 Housemaid
Rest born Rowley Regis
George Edwards married a Sarah Woodward and thus Hannah Skipton shown as cousin must be a daughter of Sarah Woodwards's Aunt or Uncle
Jabez Skipton married a Mary Woodward but her father is a William Woodward and Sarah Woodward who married George Edwards has father James Woodward.
Possibly need another thread to sort out Woodwards as at moment Sarah and Mary are not shown connected and just have fathers detailed as estimated dob.
Re: George Edwards and Joseph Edwards
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:21 am
by grangers14
Northern Lass wrote:where are this lot on 1861
1871 Census Blackheath Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
George Edwards Head 34 Coal Miner
Sarah Edwards wife 30
Jabez Edwards son 9 Scholar born Oldbury Worcs.
Mary A. Edwards dau 7 Scholar born Halesowen Worcs.
William Edwards son 4 Scholar born Halesowen Worcs.
Samuel Edwards son 1mth
Hannah Skipton Cousin 20 Housemaid
Rest born Rowley Regis
1861. Back Lane Warley Wigon
George Edwards, head, 24, Miner
Sarah, wife, 20,
Selina, daur, 5, Warley Wigon
George, son, 1, Warley Wigon
/William, head, 29, Miner
Sarah, wife, 31
All others born Rowley Regis
Re: George Edwards and Joseph Edwards--Mumbles sorting
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:38 am
by mumbles
Thanks graingers14 that must be brother William Edwards next door
Re: George Edwards and Joseph Edwards--Mumbles sorting
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:09 am
by grangers14
It looks like living in the same household Mumbles.
Re: George Edwards and Joseph Edwards--Mumbles sorting
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:17 am
by grangers14
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1841 Blackheath Rowley Regis
William Woodward, 50, Ag Lab
Hannah, 40,
Mary, 19,
William, 15 Nail M
Joseph, 10, Nail M
/Benjamin Hodgett 6,
William Hodgett, 4
Sarah Woodward, 5 months
All born in county
Re: George Edwards and Joseph Edwards--Mumbles sorting
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:43 am
by mumbles
Selina dau of George and Sarah Edwards goes to live with William and Elizabeth Edwards as their daughter in 1871 but then appears as William's niece in 1881 . She then goes on to marry William Henry Lowe born 1861 (already on bcc so another connection) and they move to Bolton Lancashire
Re: George Edwards and Joseph Edwards--Mumbles sorting
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:52 am
by Northern Lass
Well done mumbles
so hang on a min is this Sarah Woodward b 1841
1841 Blackheath Rowley Regis
William Woodward, 50, Ag Lab
Hannah, 40,
Mary, 19,
William, 15 Nail M
Joseph, 10, Nail M
/Benjamin Hodgett 6,
William Hodgett, 4
Sarah Woodward, 5 months
All born in county
and then as dau of mary in 1851
1851 Census Blackheath Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Jabes Skipton Lodger 24 Nailer
Mary Skipton wife 28 Nailer born Shropshire
Sarah Skipton dau 10 Nailer
Richard Skipton son 7
William Skipton son 4
Ann Skipton 1
Rest born Rowley Regis
I think she is dau of Mary not sister
she must be dau as she would have put Wm on certif if dau of wm
I think we connect up with these census above and a note
Re: George Edwards and Joseph Edwards--Mumbles sorting
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:15 am
by mumbles
Possible Spanner in the works ? or another Woodward Family
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =217029811Sparks has left off brother in law on 1851 Census record
1851 Census:Black Heath.Row.Regis.
Samuel WESTON hd.39 Nailor b.Halesowen
Sarah WESTON wife 33 Nailor b. Halesowen
Rosannah WESTON dau.13 Nailor b.Halesowen
Elizabeth WESTON dau.10 Nailor b. Halesowen
Edward WESTON son 8 Nailor b.Halesowen
Arthur WESTON son 5 b. Halesowen
Charles WESTON son 3 b. Halesowen.
Joseph Woodward brother.in.law 22 Nailer born Halesowen Worcs.
Re: George Edwards and Joseph Edwards--Mumbles sorting
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:18 am
by mumbles
Sarah Weston (nee Woodward ) could be witness on wedding of Jabez Skipton to Mary Woodward
It could be either Sarah Wesson or Sarah Weston
Re: George Edwards and Joseph Edwards--Mumbles sorting
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:17 pm
by Northern Lass
not with you
Sarah married to Samuel is b 1815
so you think maybe sister of Mary and witness at Jabez wedding
so that would be great then cos it would strengthen Sarah b 1841 being dau of mary?
Re: George Edwards and Joseph Edwards--Mumbles sorting
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:03 pm
by mumbles
That looks most likely
but would like to find wedding of Samuel West and Sarah
Re: George Edwards and Joseph Edwards--Mumbles sorting
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:08 pm
by mumbles
Samuel Weston Bride's Name:Sarah Woodward Date:17 Jan 1836 Marriage Place:
Saint Thomas,Dudley,Worcester,England
Re: George Edwards and Joseph Edwards--Mumbles sorting
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:23 pm
by mumbles
SKIPTONHannahSMITHJohnDudley, St ThomasDudley Register Office204/030/241 1873
Already connected and added to bcc
1881 Census 56 Oldbury Road Blackheath Dudley Staffs.
John Smith Head 30 Coal Miner
Hannah Smith wife 29
Richard Smith son 1
All born Rowley Regis Staffs.
1891 Census 56 Oldbury Road Blackheath Wednesbury Tividale West Bromwich staffs.
John Smith Head 39 Coal Miner
Hannah Smith wife 39
Richard Smith son 11 Scholar
Mary Skipton mother.in.law 73 Retired Nail Maker 73 born Oldbury Worcs.
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.
1901 Census Long Lane Hill Stourbridge Worcs..
John Smith Head 49 Carter born Old Hill Staffs.
Hannah Smith wife 50
Richard Smith son 21 Statonary Engine Stoker
Rest born Blackheath Staffs.
1911 Census 368 Long Lane Hill Stourbridge Worcs..
John Smith Head 59 Labourer in Stone Quarry born Old Hill Staffs.
Hannah Smith wife 60 born Blackheath Staffs.
Re: George Edwards and Joseph Edwards--Mumbles sorting
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:41 pm
by Northern Lass
mumbles wrote:Samuel Weston Bride's Name:Sarah Woodward Date:17 Jan 1836 Marriage Place:
Saint Thomas,Dudley,Worcester,England
We will only get wits on that one as too early
any bapts for a Sarah Woodward father Wm?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =640561810and any bapts then for any of Mary/Joseph /William
then we could connect up Sarah to William
1841 Blackheath Rowley Regis
William Woodward, 50, Ag Lab
Hannah, 40,
Mary, 19,
William, 15 Nail M
Joseph, 10, Nail M
/Benjamin Hodgett 6,
William Hodgett, 4
Sarah Woodward, 5 months
All born in county
Where is the birth for Sarah Woodward b 1841? I cant see one