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Re: Burnt Tree Island
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:09 pm
by rockyfowler
Thanks for that BW my uncle worked there could n`t remember the name
Re: Burnt Tree Island
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:12 pm
by Antie Em
BC Wench wrote:Sorry, but I don"™t know where the name originated from. I will find out when I"™m next at Dudley Archives, unless our Den knows or even Rob?
The pen factory RF is referring to was Joseph Gillott on the Birmingham Road on the same side as Dudley County Ground. Gillotts was knocked down along with some old houses when the Tesco store, which was in Dudley town where Cousins furniture store is now, was re-built on the site where the new store is at Burnt Tree.
Dudley County Ground was demolished, making way for the Castlegate Park, not a park as we would think, but a leisure complex housing a Village Hotel, cinema, tenpin bowling places to eat and of course, housing!!
Must admit though, the road is so much better not having the actual island.
Have to agree Barb - much better now negotiating the roads. I think Tesco and Block Buster Video were built on the site or very near to Ewarts.
Re: Burnt Tree Island
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:21 pm
by BC Wench
Yes you're right Antie Em, Gillotts was also alongside Ewarts.
Re: Burnt Tree Island
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:34 pm
by Northern Lass
Rob wrote::o
Excuse me??!!!
Why wouldn' t i know? I'm a local lad as well you know!!
But you know what even though i know i'm not going to tell you.!!
Let Barbie or Dennis because of their vast local knowledge inform you!!!
Me?
Go on then do you know?
Re: Burnt Tree Island
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:50 pm
by Rob
Not saying!! I'll leave it to the local historians.
Re: Burnt Tree Island
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:51 pm
by Antie Em
Northern Lass wrote:Rob wrote::o
Excuse me??!!!
Why wouldn' t i know? I'm a local lad as well you know!!
But you know what even though i know i'm not going to tell you.!!
Let Barbie or Dennis because of their vast local knowledge inform you!!!
Me?
Go on then do you know?
He doesn't know, he's just a bit miffed .....
Re: Burnt Tree Island
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:53 pm
by peterd
rockyfowler wrote:The British pen factory ?
this is one of your quotes RF
"on april 26 1779 the court leet actually ordered the right honrable lord viscount dudley and ward to mend the road on this adjoining the BURNT TREE ... leading from dudley to tividale" from the book dudley as it was and is today by g chandler and ic hannah
Re: Burnt Tree Island
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:54 pm
by rockyfowler
Sent Full copy to NL
Re: Burnt Tree Island
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:56 pm
by peterd
Re: Burnt Tree Island
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:19 pm
by Annie
Antie Em wrote:Rob wrote::o
Excuse me??!!!
Why wouldn' t i know? I'm a local lad as well you know!!
But you know what even though i know i'm not going to tell you.!!
Let Barbie or Dennis because of their vast local knowledge inform you!!!
Me?
Don't believe you da de da de da .......
I think you would tell us Rob if you knew the answer.
Annie
Re: Burnt Tree Island
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:24 pm
by Rob
Re: Burnt Tree Island
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:29 pm
by peterd
rob
Cause me and wing commander RF shot him down in flames
Re: Burnt Tree Island
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:46 pm
by Northern Lass
Rob wrote::lol:
I'll tell you something Rocky Fowler doesn't know and neither does his wingman Peterd!!
Yes He does know RF I mean not Peterd
it looks like there was a fire at the castle and then the area near was known as Burnt tree
it is only up the road from the castle..
Our RF knows everything
Re: Burnt Tree Island
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:56 am
by linell
Many thanks for all the replies, so the consensus is that the name transpired from a Fire, which makes sense, will have a look in some of my old books see if they contain anymore information, cheers from Linell.
Re: Burnt Tree Island
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:12 pm
by peterd
Proberly tied in with the first dudley castle fire as i would of thought the location it would have been part of the castle outer grounds of the estate ? poss entrance from birmingham ? or poss tied in with the civil war when best part of castle street was burnt down ?