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So hang on wot we are saying is that 2 birth regis and one might have been christened twice the Charles George who had parents George and Catherine/Kitty

and the other one regis had father John?

is that rite?

if so and there are only those 2 then it must be that Charles has the George already on the site

Catherine and Kitty are the same person

I wonder if John Brettell (nephew on the 51) is the same guy on the 41

1841
Charles Brettell 65
Mary Brettell 30
Thomas Brettell 20
Catharine Brettell 6
John Brettell 5
Charles Brettell 2
Ann Miller 10

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1851
78
Islington, Halesowen
Mary Brettell 43 - Unmarried - Nail maker
Kittey Brettell 15 - daug
Charles Brettell 11 - son
Charles Brettell 75 - Widow - father - Cordwainer - b Westfield
John Brettell 14 - nephew
others b Halesowen

Jimmy
Submitted

GEORGE HADLEY.
Father, RICHARD HADLEY.

KITTY BRETTLE.
Marriage, 08 OCT 1854. St Thomas, Dudley, Worcester

1841
Birmingham Street, Halesowen
Richd Hadley 40
Lucy Hadley 40
Harriot Hadley 15
Ann Hadley 20
George Hadley 13
Isaac Hadley 7
all b in c, Nailors

1851
74
Birmingham Street, Halesowen
Richard Hadley 56
Lucy Hadley 55
George Hadley 24
Isaac Hadley 18
all b Halesowen, Nailors

1861
167
Birmingham Street, Halesowen
Corneilous Swaten 27 - Labourer in pits - b Marlle, Wiltshire
Ann Swaten 42 - b Halesowen
Henry Hadley 18 - son in law - b Halesowen
Lucy Hadley 67 - mother in law - Widow - b Halesowen
Alexander Duncan 24 - Lodger - Actor
Elizabeth Duncan 19 - Actress
James Duncan 3 Mo
Fredrick Owen 23 - Traveller
Elizabeth Owen 20 - Actress
Emily Owen 1

Other children for George and Kitty, all extracted.

HARRIETT HADLEY.
Christening, 11 JUN 1862, Halesowen, Worcester,

HENRY HADLEY.
Christening, 18 FEB 1863, Halesowen, Worcester,

SARAH ANN HADLEY.
Christening, 24 JAN 1866, Halesowen, Worcester,

WILLIAM HADLEY,
Christening, 14 OCT 1868, Halesowen, Worcester,

ALICE HADLEY.
Christening, 09 JUL 1873, Halesowen, Worcester,

This fit with the marriage details.

1881 census.
George HADLEY. Head M Male 52 Halesowen, Worcester, Labourer At Ironworks.
Hettie HADLEY. Wife M Female 46 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Forger.
Henry HADLEY. Son U Male 18 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Forger.
Sarah HADLEY. Dau U Female 16 Halesowen, Worcester, Button Edger.
William HADLEY. Son U Male 13 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar.
Alice HADLEY. Dau U Female 8 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar.

Islington, Halesowen, Worcester,

1891
177
Cemetery Lane, Halesowen
George Hadley 61 - Bricklayers Labourer
Kate Hadley 55
Sarah Hadley 24 - Ornamental polisher at button factory
Alice Hadley 18 - Ornamental polisher at button factory
Frances Hime 11 - adopted daug (could be Hind)
all b Halesowen

1901 census as George and Kate indexed as HASLEY. 11 living in the house I think.

1901
213
Cemetery Lane, Halesowen
George Hasley 73 - General Labourer
Kate Hasley 65
Sarah Hasley 34 - Horn? Button factory, button polisher
Franas M Slim 21 - grand daug - Button factory, packer
George Withers 29 - son in law - Boatmaker
Alice Withers 27 - daug in law
William H Withers 1
all b Halesowen

1898
HADLEY Alice WITHERS David G Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/007/283

Ok I am lost.... I understand Catherine and Kitty same person so for some reason 2 bapts

but what about that other Charles ...so he must have had father John?

So can I join the tree!

1901
213
Cemetery Lane, Halesowen
George Hasley 73 - General Labourer
Kate Hasley 65
Sarah Hasley 34 - Horn? Button factory, button polisher
Franas M Slim 21 - grand daug - Button factory, packer
George Withers 29 - son in law - Boatmaker
Alice Withers 27 - daug in law
William H Withers 1
all b Halesowen

Living 4 doors away from
Gideon Basterfield 62
Hannah Basterfield 66
William Eden 53

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Gideon Basterfield I think is an uncle....
Charles Brettell and Elizabeth Hardman's son is Nathan Brettell he married Elizabeth Basterfield had Eliza Brettell she was the first wife of Gideon Basterfield....

someone talk to me!

can I join the tree up with this charles and link him to the George and Kitty already on

and does anyone please please fancy adding all this info to the tree

I'll add this lot
and yes I reckon join the tree...

thanks FS

gonna join it now and if you wouldn't mind just putting a link on when you finished that would be great

xx

Ok joined it here....

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