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Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:18 pm
by kdwoodie
If Prudence died 1806 that would fit for Humphrey remarrying
Brierley Hill
St Michael
Other Transcript
Burial date 06 Jun 1806
Burial person forename Prudence
Burial person surname RAYBOULD
Person age 60
Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:24 pm
by Waltzer7
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... #moreinfo_Re the will: Its Joseph Hill of Quarry Bank not John Hill.
Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:27 pm
by Waltzer7
kdwoodie wrote:Northern Lass wrote:For me the marriage says it all
Mary who married James Raybould was a spinster a Mary brettell
then Mary Brettell married Thomas Manger.
Which James ? the son of Joseph and Diana would be too young if born 1815
He was actually born in 1807: -
Name: James Raybold
Birth Date: 2 Dec 1807
Baptism Date:18 Mar 1812
Baptism Place: Park Lane Presbyterian,Cradley,Worcester,England
Father: Jos. Raybold
Mother: Diana
FHL Film Number0816598 (RG4 1907), 0816598 (RG4 2015)
Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:41 pm
by Northern Lass
Waltzer7 wrote:kdwoodie wrote:Northern Lass wrote:For me the marriage says it all
Mary who married James Raybould was a spinster a Mary brettell
then Mary Brettell married Thomas Manger.
Which James ? the son of Joseph and Diana would be too young if born 1815
He was actually born in 1807: -
Name: James Raybold
Birth Date: 2 Dec 1807
Baptism Date:18 Mar 1812
Baptism Place: Park Lane Presbyterian,Cradley,Worcester,England
Father: Jos. Raybold
Mother: Diana
FHL Film Number0816598 (RG4 1907), 0816598 (RG4 2015)
That one died
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Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:45 pm
by Northern Lass
kdwoodie wrote:Ok these have me stumped
Quarry Bank
Christ Church
Parish Register
Register entry number 57
Marriage date 22 Jan 1856
David RAYBOULD full age widower No business Quarry Bank Humphrey RAYBOULD Labourer
Anna NEWTON full age widow Quarry Bank
Bride father forename ?
Bride father surname ?
Bride father occupation ?
Witness 1 ? ?
Notes Groom & Brides fathers details not recorded - reads dec'd. No witnesses present-the parties declined to bring any. Groom & Bride sign X
Dudley
St Thomas
Unspecified
Register entry number 223
Marriage date 19 Nov 1809
Humphrey RAYBOULD Dudley Widower
Sarah DAVIES Dudley Widow
Witness 1 Elizabeth TAYLOR
Witness 2 Mark BOND
Notes Banns. Mark BOND Was The Clerk
So do we need to add that as a 2nd marriage for DAvid
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Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:48 pm
by kdwoodie
I think so but not sure, Sorry, having a blonde day, Joseph had 2 James one died 1814 the other born 1815, he would be too young to marry 1823
Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:51 pm
by Northern Lass
kdwoodie wrote:I think so but not sure, Sorry, having a blonde day, Joseph had 2 James one died 1814 the other born 1815, he would be too young to marry 1823
I meant that David looks good for a 2nd marriage
marries Mary Hartland she must die and he marries again father is a Humphrey
then I am not sure which Humphrey it is which one is it do you think?
Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:57 pm
by kdwoodie
Can you see anything for Humphrey born 1802 son of Joseph?
Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:37 pm
by Waltzer7
kdwoodie wrote:Can you see anything for Humphrey born 1802 son of Joseph?
Humfrey Raybould was baptised on 10 May 1802: -
Name: Humfrey Raybold
Baptism Date: 10 May 1802
Baptism Place: Park Lane Presbyterian,Cradley,Worcester,England
Father: Joseph Raybold
Mother: Diana
FHL Film Number0816598 (RG4 1907), 0816598 (RG4 2015)
1841 CensusName: Humphia Roybold
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: 1838
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Rowley Regis
Name
Humphia Roybold Age 34
Ruben Roybold Age 29
Sarah Roybold Age 26
Edwin Roybold Age 2 Months
Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:20 pm
by kdwoodie
I think its ok to addthe marriage for David and Anna.
1861 Saltwells Coppice
David Raybould Head Mar 74 Cant read occupation Born Kingswinford
Hannah Raybould Wife Mar 70 Born Kingswinford
Next doorare Joseph and Susanna Williams
Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:34 pm
by Northern Lass
kdwoodie wrote:I think its ok to addthe marriage for David and Anna.
1861 Saltwells Coppice
David Raybould Head Mar 74 Cant read occupation Born Kingswinford
Hannah Raybould Wife Mar 70 Born Kingswinford
Next doorare Joseph and Susanna Williams
Will you add what you think to Bcc I think that was a good find.
Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:40 pm
by kdwoodie
will do
Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:17 pm
by kdwoodie
Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:36 pm
by Frodo
I have looked at the entries which look good.
For Michael dob1716 there is a possible burial date of 27/9/1784 Brierley Hill Film no 1470582 but they have the birth as 1713 so I have it in abeyance.
For Humphrey 1688 Elizabeth is Elizabeth Guest I think. Married 30/8/1712 England Select Marriage FHL942.46K2K29K
For David Raybould 1787 I believe Anna is Anna Newton married 22/1/1856 Quarry Bank FHL film no 1040915
For Joseph 1774 I think Susannah is Susannah Pearson married 29/6/1828 Kingswinford FHL 1470765 ref p89cn442
Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:20 am
by Northern Lass
Frodo wrote:I have looked at the entries which look good.
For Michael dob1716 there is a possible burial date of 27/9/1784 Brierley Hill Film no 1470582 but they have the birth as 1713 so I have it in abeyance.
For Humphrey 1688 Elizabeth is Elizabeth Guest I think. Married 30/8/1712 England Select Marriage FHL942.46K2K29K
For David Raybould 1787 I believe Anna is Anna Newton married 22/1/1856 Quarry Bank FHL film no 1040915
For Joseph 1774 I think Susannah is Susannah Pearson married 29/6/1828 Kingswinford FHL 1470765 ref p89cn442
Kay looks good
Frodo ...Anna is not Anna Newton in that that is her married name so we put her actual maiden name which we don't
at this stage know, therefore she is Anna Unknown
Same goes for Susannah widow when married to Joseph so she is Unknown.