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Re: John Dunn, father of Jesse Dunn

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:02 pm
by Northern Lass
rockyfowler wrote:28 Mar 1853 St Martin Tipton
William DOWNING 24 B Miner Prince`s End Father William Downing Boatman
Jane TAMROWN 19 S Prince`s End Father James Tamrown Miner
After Banns William Signed The X Of Jane
Wit; Abel Caddick / Margaret Caddick X


Thanks Rf will add that in :wink:

Re: John Dunn, father of Jesse Dunn

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:44 pm
by peterd
look again at census and it looks like his francis and sarah the one i looked at didnt have a joseph in the 1881 census

1871 Northfield Rd, Rowley regis

Francis Downing 45
Sarah Downing 43
Mary Downing 20
Thomas Downing 17
Sarah Downing 15
Ellem Downing 14
James Downing 11
Lydia Downing 9
Frank Downing 7
Phoebe Hannah Downing 5
John Danuel Downing 8 Months



1881; 57 Powke lane, Rowley Regis

Francis Downing 54
Sarah Downing 52
Lydia Downing 20
Francis Downing 18
Phoebe Downing 15
John D. Downing 10
Joseph Downing 6

Re: John Dunn, father of Jesse Dunn

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:49 pm
by peterd
could samuel priest dowings nieghbours his wife be sarah willetts ? jesse sister ?


PRIEST Samuel WILLETTS Sarah 1867 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/025/300

Re: John Dunn, father of Jesse Dunn

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:54 pm
by Northern Lass
peterd wrote:look again at census and it looks like his francis and sarah the one i looked at didnt have a joseph in the 1881 census

1871 Northfield Rd, Rowley regis

Francis Downing 45 dudley
Sarah Downing 43 dudley
Mary Downing 20
Thomas Downing 17
Sarah Downing 15
Ellem Downing 14
James Downing 11
Lydia Downing 9
Frank Downing 7
Phoebe Hannah Downing 5
John Danuel Downing 8 Months
rest RR


1881; 57 Powke lane, Rowley Regis

Francis Downing 54
Sarah Downing 52
Lydia Downing 20
Francis Downing 18
Phoebe Downing 15
John D. Downing 10
Joseph Downing 6


is JOseph son or G.son on 1881

The Frank I found is with a Martha in 1911
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =295572571

but no James as brother

Re: John Dunn, father of Jesse Dunn

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:49 pm
by peterd
joseph g son maybe james lied to get him into the usa ?

Re: John Dunn, father of Jesse Dunn

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:52 pm
by Northern Lass
If this is our John or his family in 1841
where is Wm Dunn in 1851?
is Sarah his wife?
if so where is marriage?

1841 Upper Netherton, Dudley
John Dunn 70 lab
Sarah Dunn 70
William Dunn 35
Sarah Dunn 25

is there a death for John and Sarah aged 70 so we can get an age or burial

Re: John Dunn, father of Jesse Dunn

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:55 pm
by peterd
all gone by 1891

1891 1881; 57 Powke lane, Rowley Regis

Francis Downing 64 collirey engine driver, netherton
Sarah Downing 62 netherton
John Downing 20 RR

Re: John Dunn, father of Jesse Dunn

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:06 pm
by peterd
Northern Lass wrote:If this is our John or his family in 1841
where is Wm Dunn in 1851?
is Sarah his wife?
if so where is marriage?

1841 Upper Netherton, Dudley
John Dunn 70 lab
Sarah Dunn 70
William Dunn 35
Sarah Dunn 25

is there a death for John and Sarah aged 70 so we can get an age or burial



too many deaths no ages


poss kids

name: Hannah Dunn
baptism/christening date: 26 Jan 1800
baptism/christening place: SAINT THOMAS,DUDLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
father's name: John Dunn
mother's name: Sarah
indexing project (batch) number: C04014-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 378764


name: Sobey Dunn
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 25 Dec 1803
baptism/christening place: SAINT THOMAS,DUDLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
father's name: John Dunn
mother's name: Sarah
indexing project (batch) number: C04014-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number:


name: James Dunn
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 27 May 1798
baptism/christening place: SAINT THOMAS,DUDLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
father's name: John Dunn
mother's name: Sarah
indexing project (batch) number: C04014-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 378764


name: William Dunn
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 27 Jun 1802
baptism/christening place: SAINT THOMAS,DUDLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
father's name: John Dunn
mother's name: Sarah
indexing project (batch) number: C04014-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 378764


name: Daniel Dunn
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 21 Feb 1808
baptism/christening place: SAINT THOMAS,DUDLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
father's name: John Dunn
mother's name: Sarah
indexing project (batch) number: C04014-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 378764

Re: John Dunn, father of Jesse Dunn

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:04 am
by Northern Lass
Added Kids as a possible in notes on JOhn dunn b 1770

Re: John Dunn, father of Jesse Dunn

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:12 am
by Bibliogirl
Not sure if helpful or not, but i found an article in the Berrow's Worcester Journal, courtesy of FindMyPast, Sat 16 Feb 1878, page 6,
About a meeting of the Cradley Conservative Association.

Meeting held in Stourbridge

Attendees included a Thomas Fellows (I have seen Keturah Dunn's middle name listed in a number of places as Fellows, and she gave the name Keturah Fellows Keilen to her daughter born in 1895)

Attdees also included a W. Walker, Jesse's second marriage was witnessed by a Thomas Walker.

And lastly attended by "Jesse Dunn, John Dunn, Job Dunn (secretary)"

The note also said the next meeting would be held in Brierly Hill.

Re: John Dunn, father of Jesse Dunn

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:32 pm
by Northern Lass
It might be worth contacting the Regis office at Dudley and asking for the certif for a Sarah Dunn who dies in 1843 aged 66
might get lucky with an informant and may be this Sarah
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =594011738

likewise with a death for a JOhn Dunn

but you need to send them the money first they won't proceed without payment I asked them today.

I order online via here
http://www.dudley.gov.uk/community-and- ... tificates/

They accept cards online and I find them very good to order from.
Will cost £10 each certif..not sure with you being abroad maybe email them and ask them.

You could say you only want certifs for a John and Sarah Dunn dying betw 1841 and 1851
aged 60+ and living Netherton

:?

Re: John Dunn, father of Jesse Dunn

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:30 pm
by Bibliogirl
Northern Lass wrote:It might be worth contacting the Regis office at Dudley and asking for the certif for a Sarah Dunn who dies in 1843 aged 66
might get lucky with an informant and may be this Sarah
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =594011738

likewise with a death for a JOhn Dunn

but you need to send them the money first they won't proceed without payment I asked them today.

I order online via here
http://www.dudley.gov.uk/community-and- ... tificates/

They accept cards online and I find them very good to order from.
Will cost £10 each certif..not sure with you being abroad maybe email them and ask them.

You could say you only want certifs for a John and Sarah Dunn dying betw 1841 and 1851
aged 60+ and living Netherton

:?


Will do! Thanks for the tip! I've been ordering through Ancestry.com and it is about $50 U.S. each!

Re: John Dunn, father of Jesse Dunn

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:32 pm
by peterd
60 ? they were 70 in 1841 census ?

Re: John Dunn, father of Jesse Dunn

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:43 pm
by Northern Lass
That is a crazy price on Ancestry

There is the Gro too have you tried to order via there your certifs?
you can do that online too not sure howmuch it is overseas.

That Sarah who dies in 1843 is 66 so maybe start with her

trouble is even though down as 66 on burial
a) it may not be "our" Sarah
b) age on burial may be incorrect and she is maybe 70+ ...depends who is remembering their age for records.

John you could say between 60-80 see what they give you trouble is may be the wrong one when ordered no certainties :(

Re: John Dunn, father of Jesse Dunn

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:07 pm
by Bibliogirl
Well I'll sort through the parameters to give them tonight and give it a whirl :-)

No, haven't tried GRO...