for info---Eli Smith b abt 1821

[Northern Lass]

I think that Eli is the brother of Thomas Smith
and that they both have father Eli Smith Brickmaker
but can't find bapts

Thomas Smith is here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =582777724

Eli Smith is here...
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =692999769

both call sons Enoch

Thomas marries in 1838

dont know when Eli marries

stuck

[Northern Lass]

Wit on Thomas smiths marr doc is an Eliza smith

1839
SMITH Eliza CARTWRIGHT Thomas Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/001/142

[Jimmy]

1841. Park St, Oldbury. Shropshire.
Eli Smith 20. Nailer. Born in County.
Mary Smith 20. Not born in County.

West Midlands Marriage 1839.
SMITH Eli, MORRIS Mary A. West Bromwich, All Saints. Sandwell Register Office. 22/1/389.

[Jimmy]

Eli Smith.
Baptism/Christening Date 02 Sep 1821.
Baptism/Christening Place Oldbury,Worcester
Father's Name Eli Smith.
Mother's Name Mary Smith.

Thomas Smith.
Baptism/Christening Date 06 May 1831.
Baptism/Christening Place Oldbury,Worcester.
Father's Name Eli Smith.
Mother's Name Mary Smith.

[Jimmy]

1841. Birchfield Lane, Oldbury.
Thomas Smith 30. Coal miner.
Nancy Smith 25.
Mary Smith 2.

All born in County.

[Jimmy]

Thos. Smith.
Baptism/Christening Date 01 May 1808.
Baptism/Christening Place Oldbury, Worcester.
Father's Name Eli Smith.
Mother's Name Ann Smith.


Thomas Smith.
Baptism/Christening Date 28 Mar 1813.
Baptism/Christening Place Oldbury,Worcester.
Father's Name John Smith.
Mother's Name Mary Smith.

Thomas Smith.
Baptism/Christening Date 30 Jul 1815.
Baptism/Christening Place Oldbury Parish of Halesowen, Salop.
Father's Name Isaac Smith.
Mother's Name Maria Smith.

[Northern Lass]

I dont get who that Thomas bapt in 1831 is?
cos we have that one in 1808
but mother is Ann not Mary

[Northern Lass]

Thomas Smith.
Baptism/Christening Date 06 May 1831.
Baptism/Christening Place Oldbury,Worcester.
Father's Name Eli Smith.
Mother's Name Mary Smith.

is this our Thomas or the 1808 one?

[Northern Lass]

Does Eli snr marry twice
first to Ann then to Mary



any marriages?

[Jimmy]

I thought Ann could be Mary Ann, but I can't see a mariage.

[Northern Lass]

I thought Ann could be Mary Ann, but I can't see a mariage.

so who do you think that one in 1831 with father Eli and Mary mother is?

[Jimmy]

I don't know, I can't see them in 1841.

[Jimmy]

Thomas Smith.
Baptism/Christening Date 06 May 1831.
Baptism/Christening Place Oldbury,Worcester.
Father's Name Eli Smith.
Mother's Name Mary Smith.

is this our Thomas or the 1808 one?

Its possible that this one is an adult baptism.

[Northern Lass]

Eli Smith.
Baptism/Christening Date 02 Sep 1821.
Baptism/Christening Place Oldbury,Worcester
Father's Name Eli Smith.
Mother's Name Mary Smith.

Thomas Smith.
Baptism/Christening Date 06 May 1831.
Baptism/Christening Place Oldbury,Worcester.
Father's Name Eli Smith.
Mother's Name Mary Smith.

going to put these down for a look up
father should be maybe a bricklayer?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =122434489

could Thomas have been bapt in 1808 and again in 1831?

Jimmy does it look ok what I have added at mo?
Thomas and Eli as brothers
not put in mothers name for both cos dont know
but that is a big gap betw 1808 and 1821

no marriages for Eli snr?

[Jimmy]

Eli Smith.
Baptism/Christening Date 02 Sep 1821.
Baptism/Christening Place Oldbury,Worcester
Father's Name Eli Smith.
Mother's Name Mary Smith.

Looks like these could be siblings, firsdt one same day as Eli.

Hannah Smith.
Baptism/Christening Date 02 Sep 1821.
Baptism/Christening Place Oldbury,Worcester
Father's Name Eli Smith.
Mother's Name Mary Smith.

Richard Smith.
Baptism/Christening Date 06 Jun 1824.
Baptism/Christening Place Oldbury,Worcester
Father's Name Eli Smith.
Mother's Name Mary Smith.

Nancy Smith.
Baptism/Christening Date 03 Dec 1826.
Baptism/Christening Place Oldbury,Worcester
Father's Name Eli Smith.
Mother's Name Mary Smith.

It could be that Thomas 1808 is not a brother.