*UPDATE -links to the threads below- *possible link up ?

[mumbles]

According to Nl the marriage record of which Mary Ann Mole married William Brookes is daughter of Paarai Mole born 1826 and Ann Fletcher and her age on 1881, 1891 and 1901 Census is born 1858 which ties up as does age of Paarai
The other Paarai was born 1835/1836 and married Fanny or Frances Hadley and their daughter Mary was born c.1862 which is wrong for 1858 Mary who married William Brookes.

[Northern Lass]

I agree mumbles
but what is odd is that name Hadley and the fact that we have Isaac Hadley one of the wits
I will fill in the marriage later

so we could do with adding this Paari and frances and finding how he links cos he must do
and is it his dau that marries William Daniels?
where is that marriage?

can someone add those look ups for the marriages posted prev as dont think we have those

[Jimmy]

The actual image dont show Polly as a Mole. as it do's in the index.
The index says that Polly is the wife of Joseph Mole.


1891 Census 55 Birmingham Road Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Mole Head 40 Rivet Maker.
Getha Mole wife 41 Nailer.
Joseph Mole son 17 Rivet Maker.
William Mole son 15 Lab. in Rivet Shop.
Agnes Mole dau 8 Scholar.
Frank Mole son 5 Scholar.
Fred Mole son 3.
Infant Mole son 1week.
William Daniels broth.in.law 30 Lab.
Polly ------- wife 28 Washerwoman.
Alice ------- dau 12 Scholar.
Tilda ------- dau 2.
All born Rowley Regis.

[mumbles]

Found possible sex change in chasing Paarai Mole:-
1841 Census :-
Club Buildings Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
William Mole 25 Nailer
Amhillis Mole 25
Pair Mole 5 (female)
Mary Ann Mole 5mths.
All born Staffs.

1851 Census Hawes Lane Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
William Mole Head 34 Nailer
Ann Pharis Mole wife 33 looks like Amhillis on orig.)
Mary Ann Mole dau 10 scholar
Thomas Mole son scholar
Elizabeth Lowe serv. 20
All born Rowley Regis

Just up road:-
Thomas Bepler Head 55
Mary Bepler wife 53
Joseph Bepler son 21
Patrick Mole grd.son 14
All nailers and born Rowley Regis

Note Bepler looks like Belfield but hard to read and Patrick is definitely not Patrick and looks like Pharos Mole

[rockyfowler]

The actual image dont show Polly as a Mole. as it do's in the index.
The index says that Polly is the wife of Joseph Mole.


1891 Census 55 Birmingham Road Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Mole Head 40 Rivet Maker.
Getha Mole wife 41 Nailer.
Joseph Mole son 17 Rivet Maker.
William Mole son 15 Lab. in Rivet Shop.
Agnes Mole dau 8 Scholar.
Frank Mole son 5 Scholar.
Fred Mole son 3.
Infant Mole son 1week.
William Daniels broth.in.law 30 Lab.
Polly ------- wife 28 Washerwoman.
Alice ------- dau 12 Scholar.
Tilda ------- dau 2.
All born Rowley Regis.

joseph mole 21y married dorcas ann jones 12 mar 1895 st lukes cradheath
father joseph mole bolt maker father edwin jones
wits frederick robinson,eliza mole--from-- transcribed by roger boswell

[Jimmy]

How do you know that Polly/ Mary Ann was a Mole.

[rockyfowler]

daniel haden 34fitter father john haden st luke cradheath 15 mar 1896
ann eliza rose 24 mother Getha rose
wits joseph and dorcas mole from trans by roger boswell

[grangers14]

1861 Census
Tepaty Green Rowley Regis
Pariah Mole, head, 26, Furnace Labourer coal mine,
Fanny, wife, 25, Nailor,
Thomas, son, 2,
All born Rowley Regis

[Jimmy]

Is this William in 1901.
8, Elbow St. RR.
William Daniels 40. Coalminer.
Rhoda Daniels 40. born Oldhill.
Matilda Daniels 17.
John Daniels 14.
Lily Daniels 12.
Mary Ann Daniels 7.
Edith Daniels 3.

All others born RR.

If so.

Could Polly in 1891 have been mistranscribed.

West Midlands Marriage 1882.
DANIEL William, WILLIAMS Rhoda, Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office. 204/037/50.

[grangers14]

Extracted IGI Marriage
Pari Mole and Frances Hadley. 14 Sept 1856 Saint Thomas, Dudley

Extracted IGI Christening
Mary Mole, 17th Nov 1861, Rowley Regis, Stafford. Father Paare Mole Mother Frances Mole

[Jimmy]

1891 as Tilda age 2, on the image it could quite easily be 8.

Which would fit with this.

West Midlands 1883.
DANIELS Matilda A, Rowley Regis, Sandwell Register Office. RR/82/335.

The only other one is.

West Midlands 1887.
DANILLS Matilda R, Rowley Regis, Sandwell Register Office. RR/92/231.

[grangers14]

1841 Census
Black Heath
Samuel Mole, 45, Nail m
Ann, 30,
Isaac, 19 Coal m
Henry, 17, nail m
Paari, 15, Coalm
Hannah, 13,
Ketzurah 10,
Thomas, 12 months
All born in county



1851 Census
Blackheath
Samuel Mole, 56, Nailor
Ann, wife, 40, Nailor
Paarai, son, 24, Nailor
Keterah, dau, 20, Nailor
Thomas, 11, Nailor,
John, son, 8, Nailor
Samuel, son, 3,
Joseph, son, 3 months

All born Rowley

Next door is
Solomon Hadley, Head, 33, Nail Tool maker
Hanah, wife, 28, Nail Tool Maker
Both born Rowley

[Northern Lass]

Where are we up to with this
I have the marriage looked up for Wm Brooks and Mary ann Mole still to post
father paarai
and
looked up Joseph Mole to getha rose father for Joseph Samuel but I know it is Samuel as have ordered birth cert and asked questions that
confd Samuel and Getha Rose Wm...again still to post


so what are we up to
what are we actually askiing for on this lot now?

[Jimmy]

What I am asking, was Polly's maiden name Mole, there is nothing to show this for certain.

[Northern Lass]

What I am asking, was Polly's maiden name Mole, there is nothing to show this for certain.

I agree Jimmy
I will add the look ups tomoz on what I have sorry not done it yet ...Kaye and I cleared loads


what about that Rhoda
could Polly be Rhoda?
do we need one of the kids birth certifs?

who is this Polly
Wm is son of Wm and matilda do we agree
cos I think that stacks
then Wm marris a Polly or mary ann or Rhoda????