Joseph BURLEY b. 1834 Rowley Regis x 2 Jo adding

[grangers14]

Jimmy has listed all the births recorded on the GRO with mothers maiden name as Allport. Them names don't appear there.
Where were they born?

[grangers14]

I wonder if this is the family you are looking for?

https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=469434

[grangers14]

I think this is Martha with her children in a previous marriage

1871.Bilston Road, Wolverhampton.
Abraham Lunn, head, 48, Licensed Victualler, Bilston
Martha, wife, 36, Devon, Crediton
Rachel, daur, 14, France
Lucy, daur, 12, Dorset
Ann Alice, daur, 10, London
Abraham, son, 8, London
William Henry, son, 6, Cheshire
Mary Martha, daur, 2, Silverdale
Thomas Lloyd, servant, 61, Codsall
Mary Bevington, servant, 18, Wolverhampton


It matches children in 1881.
Looking at the births for the children maiden name is Berry and it looks like they didn't marry till
Marriages Dec 1870 (>99%)
BERRY Martha Walsall 6b 1021
LUNN Abraham Walsall 6b 1021

We can't look up the marriages for them... so we can't confirm that is correct unless we have a marriage cert.

[grangers14]

??
1861. 75, Driffield Road, Old Ford Bow, Poplar, London.
Abraham Lunn, head, 36, Foreman of Main Sewer, Bilston
Martha, wife, 26, Crediton Devon
Rachael, daur, 4, France,
Lucy, daur, 1, Gillingham, Dorset
William Wood, Father in law, 57, Brazier, Leeds,
Mary Wood, mother in law, 50, Kent,
Emily Wood, sister in law, 11

[grangers14]

?? getting a bit lost without proof...
Christening. Freereg.
7th April 1822. St Leonard, Bilston.
Abraham, parents, James and Mary Lunn, Deepfield, Sedgley, Miner

1841. Park Street, Crediton, Devon.
Thomas Berry, 25, Mason
Mary, 30,
William, 9,
Martha, 7
All born in County

??
1851. Park Street, Crediton, Devon
Thomas, head, U, 30, Cordwainer

1851. 9 North Place, Greenwich, London and Kemt.
William Wood, head, W, 46, Brazier and manager of Gas, Halifax
Mary, daur, 19, London
Mary Berry, Visitor (small writing above, Sister?) M, 40, Stone masons wife, Crediton Devon
Martha Berry, Visitor16, Crediton, Devon
Emily, Berry, Visitor, 1

[grangers14]

I have just bought the cert for Martha Lunn and Joseph Burley. See if that helps. I am sure it is right! Will solve a puzzle! I hope!

[Rob G]

All interesting stuff, many thanks for your input. Will study what has been sent and hope it knocks down some walls!

Thanks
Rob G

[grangers14]

Marriage Certificate.

5th March 1877. Handsworth.
Joseph Burley, 42, W, Traveller, Handsworth, Joseph Burley, Gentleman
Martha Lunn, 42, W, Handsworth, Thomas Berry, (dec) Stone Mason
After Banns,
Both signed.
Witnesses, Benjamin Jones, Eliza Jones.

Looks like his occupation is Traveller?

[grangers14]

??

1881. 7 Swan Street, Stourbridge.
Jos Burley, head, M, 77, Retired Butcher, Colley Gate
Elizabeth, wife, 67, Colley Gate

Buriel. Freereg
29th November 1881. Christ Church, Quarry Bank.
Joseph Burley, 78, Long Lands, Stourbridge

Will. From Find a will. Gov UK
Joseph Burley. Personal Estate £26
1st March 1882. The will of Joseph Burley late of Swan Street in the county of Worcestershire who died 24 November 1881 at Swan Street was proved at Worcester by Elizabeth Burley of 51 Upper High Street Stourbridge Widow the relict and Joseph Burley of Hill Top West Bromwich in the County of Stafford Butcher the son the Executors
??
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1873
BURLEY Joseph WOOTTON Elizabeth Stourbridge Register Office Dudley Register Office 001/006/86

[rockyfowler]

Stourbridge Weslyan Chapel
1873
102 29 Jun Joseph BURLEY 69 W Retired Butcher Stourbridge Father Thomas Burley Butcher Elizabeth WOOTTON 60 W Halesowen Father Richard Pearce Grocer According to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Wesleyan Methodists by Certificate Both Signed Wit; Samuel Chamberlain / Priscilla Benbow

[grangers14]

Brilliant! Thank you RF!
I didn't think we could get it without getting another marriage cert!
Jo

[grangers14]

I think it may be this Joseph Burley on BCC...
https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=470463

[grangers14]

Could this be Joseph before marriage? Or did he marry before?

1871. Easy Row, Stourbridge.
Joseph Burley, head, 63, Retired Butcher, Cradley
Ann, wife, 50, Alveley, Shropshire

[mallosa]

Could this be Joseph before marriage? Or did he marry before?

1871. Easy Row, Stourbridge.
Joseph Burley, head, 63, Retired Butcher, Cradley
Ann, wife, 50, Alveley, Shropshire

Perhaps he married a relation of Elizabeth's

Marriage 1862
BURLEY Joseph WOOTTON Ann Pensnett, St Mark Dudley Register Office 214/002/53

Death Mar 1873
BURLEY Ann 52 Stourbridge 6c 112


and then....

Stourbridge Weslyan Chapel
1873
102 29 Jun Joseph BURLEY 69 W Retired Butcher Stourbridge Father Thomas Burley Butcher Elizabeth WOOTTON 60 W Halesowen Father Richard Pearce Grocer According to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Wesleyan Methodists by Certificate Both Signed Wit; Samuel Chamberlain / Priscilla Benbow

[grangers14]

Could be Mally?

Burial. Freereg.
11th February 1873. Holy Trinity, Amblecote.
Ann Burley, 52, Longlands