My distant cousin contacted me a couple of weeks ago to let me know his mum Evelyn Whatlin had died - I was looking on Black country Connections to check out the family and realised the Manger she is descended from does not appear. I am descended through David Manger(b1838)'s first wife Hannah round's daughter Martha. Evelyn is descended through his second wife Mary Anne Smith(Peplow). On BCC David and Mary have three children - William, David and Annie but on the family tree my dad left me (sadly without any documents) there was a daughter Caroline born between William and David.
Caroline married a Benaiah Adams - if you look Benaiah up the marriage is on BCC - they had three children Annie, Minnie and Dorothy - Evelyn who has just passed away was the daughter of Annie who married an Alfred Ruston and had two children Alfred and Evelyn. Minnie married an Ernest Yale and Dorothy a William Gould.
Other than the marriage to Beniaih I can't spot anything else on BCC - has anyone any more information and could Caroline be added to the family tree - although I don't have documents I am sure the link is correct as my distant cousin Keith has the same information through family trees/research, paperwork his mother has etc
Manger family missing links-Jo adding.
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Re: Manger family missing links
Caroline in in the census for 1881 as Caroline Smith. http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=360174
Is that just a mistake? Her birth was registered after the marriage.
Is that just a mistake? Her birth was registered after the marriage.
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Re: Manger family missing links
Here's Caroline and Benaiah on BCC - http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... di=7129579
just added their children
Their daughter Annie -
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Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 9
Marriage 6 Aug 1917 St Paul, Blackheath, Staffs
Alfred RUSHTON 22 bachelor Rose Cottages, Cakemore stamper Father Joseph RUSHTON labourer
Annie Laura ADAMS 21 spinster Glendyne, Beaumont Road dress maker Father Beniah ADAMS packer
Wit: Albert CUTLER/Edith Rachel WHITEHOUSE
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Their daughter Annie -
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Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 9
Marriage 6 Aug 1917 St Paul, Blackheath, Staffs
Alfred RUSHTON 22 bachelor Rose Cottages, Cakemore stamper Father Joseph RUSHTON labourer
Annie Laura ADAMS 21 spinster Glendyne, Beaumont Road dress maker Father Beniah ADAMS packer
Wit: Albert CUTLER/Edith Rachel WHITEHOUSE
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Re: Manger family missing links
Annie Laura Adams married Alfred Rushton/Ruston (connected up) - http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=360258
I haven't connected up Caroline to her parents, I'll leave it to Jan or Jo to see what they think
I haven't connected up Caroline to her parents, I'll leave it to Jan or Jo to see what they think
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Re: Manger family missing links
I think they need connecting... May be just a mistake on the 1881 census.
The marriage is at ref office so we can't check. Rachel was married same quater in reg office too.
I will connect
Jo
The marriage is at ref office so we can't check. Rachel was married same quater in reg office too.
I will connect
Jo
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Thats great, thanks Jo xx
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Re: Manger family missing links
Archive now?
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Re: *ARC TBC* Manger family missing links
Frodo do you want us to add in Evelyn?
do you also want us to add that you connect on Martha and David?
if so Jo could you do the hons if you a min
or I will try in the week
we need the dob of Evelyn and date of death to add on Bcc.
Anyone born after 1920 we need to add date of death.
do you also want us to add that you connect on Martha and David?
if so Jo could you do the hons if you a min
or I will try in the week
we need the dob of Evelyn and date of death to add on Bcc.
Anyone born after 1920 we need to add date of death.
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Re: Manger family missing links
Will try and contact my distant cousin to get confirmation of dates for Evelyn. Yes please link Martha and David. I notice Beaumont Road on the information - seems to be a lot of Mangers and Taylors on that road. Think I recognise names of the witnesses - will dig out my family info again over the next few days.
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Re: Manger family missing links
I have added you connect to David and Martha Frodo.
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Re: Manger family missing links
I have had an e mail from my distant cousin - Evelyn was born 1st February 1922 - she passed away on 8th January. He mentions that her mum was Annie Ruston (nee Adams) born 1895 or 6 and her parents were Benaiah Adams and Caroline Manger. He wasn't able to provide any other dates from what he had available but it does confirm the connection.
Looking at the witnesses for the marriage Edith Rachel Whitehouse was the daughter of Rachel Whitehouse nee Manger (from his marriage to Hannah Round). I've tried to connect Albert Cutler to the family by looking at the connections page but can't see the link. David Manger and Mary Smith's youngest Annie married an Esau Cutler and had 4 children - Edith, Alec? (either an Alec who married a Mary or vice versa - think the way dad did the tree it's an Alec), Blanche and Annie. I've not been able to match these names for definite on the connections - neither of the Esau Cutler's look right.
Looking at the witnesses for the marriage Edith Rachel Whitehouse was the daughter of Rachel Whitehouse nee Manger (from his marriage to Hannah Round). I've tried to connect Albert Cutler to the family by looking at the connections page but can't see the link. David Manger and Mary Smith's youngest Annie married an Esau Cutler and had 4 children - Edith, Alec? (either an Alec who married a Mary or vice versa - think the way dad did the tree it's an Alec), Blanche and Annie. I've not been able to match these names for definite on the connections - neither of the Esau Cutler's look right.
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Re: Manger family missing links
Jo I dont have time to sort at mo
can you add Evelyn etc
if you have time?
can you add Evelyn etc
if you have time?
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Re: Manger family missing links
I will see what I can do.
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Re: Manger family missing links
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1911. 13 St Wilfrids Cottages, Arley, Warwickshire
Thomas Esau Cutler, head, 27, Coal Mine Repairer
Annie Cutler, wife, married 8 years, 3 children all living,
Edith Mary Anne Cutler, 7,
Nellie May Cutler, 4,
Alexander Cutler, 2, Arley
All others born Old Hill
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1902
MANGER Annie CUTLER Esau Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/10/50
1911. 13 St Wilfrids Cottages, Arley, Warwickshire
Thomas Esau Cutler, head, 27, Coal Mine Repairer
Annie Cutler, wife, married 8 years, 3 children all living,
Edith Mary Anne Cutler, 7,
Nellie May Cutler, 4,
Alexander Cutler, 2, Arley
All others born Old Hill
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1902
MANGER Annie CUTLER Esau Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/10/50