ARC TBC Hi and the Fearnall Family from Kidderminster

[Northern Lass]

Hi

Thanks for that info have added to Bcc
Would you like me to add that you connect in notes then if anyone sees it they can contact you via this forum?

Questions....

Do you have the info on the address of Phebe who was informant at death of the other Joseph.....I dont think that is your Joseph I think it is the one whose wife is Mary born Walsall....they have son Joseph who marries a Phebe...

but just wanted to see where the informant was living....and also does it state where Joseph dies please addresses.

[Northern Lass]

another Question ..

on these marriages then ............father is not down as deceased?

and do you have the full info you can post and I can add them to Bcc
I also have transcripts of the marriage Certificates for;
Elizabeth Fearnall marriage 1853, to Richard Fellowes, fathers name Joseph Fearnall (carpet weaver)
William Fearnall marriage 1859 to Ann Handley, fathers name Joseph Fearnall (carpet weaver)
Robert Fearnall marriage 1867 to Martha Parsons, fathers name Joseph Fearnall(carpet weaver)
Ann Fearnall marriage 1868 to Thomas Bufton, fathers name Joseph Fearnall (carpet weaver)
Maria Fearnall marriage 1873 to Richard Lee, fathers name Joseph Fearnall (carpet weaver)

[Northern Lass]

Can anyone see that Joseph Fearnall marriage to Mary King online anywhere pls
to see full info
marital status of both parties.

Also is there a death for Mary Fearnall for her dob to be calc.

[Northern Lass]

On 1851 Mary is down as mar not widow
on 1861 down as widow

so either he left her or died

down as decd on 1877 mar of son john.

The one dying in 1857 I think is the other Joseph with wit phebe dau in law

anyone help pls?

can anyone find a death for a Joseph Fearnall after 1841

or him on 1851 pls

its not this one....unless Joseph has 2 families?

1851 Broad St Kidderminster
Joseph Fearnall head mar 59 Carpet Weaver b Kidderminster
Mary Fearnall wife 59 b Walsall Staffs.
Joseph Fearnall unm son 22 b Kidderminster
Louisa Cartwright dau 27 mar bobbin minder?
Emma Fearnall dau 24
Joseph Fearnall 14 g.son
Eliza Fearnall 12 G.dau
Joseph Cartwright Gson 8? b stourbridge
Noah Cartwright gson 1 b Brockmoor
all others b Kidderminster

poss marriage of a Joseph who I think marries a Phoebe Ayers in 1856 Kidderminster
is that the son of Joseph above?

and this looks like Mary born Walsall in 1871
1871 York ???? Kidderminster
Joseph Fearnall head mar 42 carpet weaver b Kidderminster
Phebe? Fearnall wife 43?
Eliza dau 18?
Mary Mother widow 80 b Walsall


can anyone find the family above in 1841 pls ................to show 2 families or rather 2 Josephs with their families

so where is this lot in 1841
1851 Broad St Kidderminster
Joseph Fearnall head mar 59 Carpet Weaver b Kidderminster
Mary Fearnall wife 59 b Walsall Staffs.
Joseph Fearnall unm son 22 b Kidderminster
Louisa Cartwright dau 27 mar bobbin minder?
Emma Fearnall dau 24
Joseph Fearnall 14 g.son
Eliza Fearnall 12 G.dau
Joseph Cartwright Gson 8? b stourbridge
Noah Cartwright gson 1 b Brockmoor
all others b Kidderminster

[BC Wench]

The Joseph Fearnall who married Phoebe

1841: Jerusalem Walk, Kidderminster (Surname reads FEARNELL on image)
Joseph Finwall, 50, Carpet Weaver, not born in County? Difficult to read
Mary Finwall, 50, not born in County? Difficult to read
Emma Finwall, 15, born in County
Joseph Finwall, 12, Drawer, born in County he marries Phoebe Ayers

1851: Broad St Kidderminster
Joseph Fearnall, Head.Mar, 59, Carpet Weaver
Mary Fearnall, Wife, 59, Walsall
Joseph Fearnall, Son.UM, 22, Carpet Weaver
Louisa Cartwright, Dau.Mar, 27, Bobbin Winder
Emma Fearnall, Dau.UM, 24
Joseph Fearnall, Gr.Son, 14, Weaver’s Assistant
Eliza Fearnall, Gr.Dau, 12, Weaver’s Assistant
Joseph Cartwright, Gr.Son, 8, Scholar, Stourbridge
Noah Cartwright, Gr.Son, 1, Brockmoor
(All others born Kidderminster)

Marriage: 27 Sep 1856 at Kidderminster
Joseph Fearnall & Pheobe Ayers

1861: 10 York Street, Kidderminster (Surname FEARNALL on image)
Joseph Searnall, Head.Mar, 32, Power Loom Carpet Weaver
Phoebe Searnall, Wife, 33
Eliza Searnall, Dau, 4
Mary Searnall, Mother.Wid, 74, Formerly Dress Maker, Walsall
(All others born Kidderminster)

1871: Pleasant Row, Kidderminster
Joseph Fearnall, Head.Mar, 42, Carpet Weaver
Phebe Fearnall wife 43, Warehouse Woman
Eliza Fearnall, Dau.UM, 18, Stamper
Mary Fearnall, Mother.Wid, 80, Walsall
(Others born Kidderminster)

1881: 69 Broad Street, Kidderminster
Joseph Fearnall, Head.Mar, 52, Carpet Weaver
Phoebe Fearnall, Wife, 52
Eliza Fearnall, Dau.S, 24, Winder (Carpet)
Louisa Ann Fearnall, Gr.Dau, 9mths
(All born Kidderminster)

[Fearnall]

Yes please, definitely add me so that anyone can contact me via the forum, that's wonderful.

In answer to your questions, both Joseph (deceased) and Phoebe (the informant of death) were resident at York Street, Kidderminster in 1857.
Joseph Fearnall is down as a carpet weaver on all the marriages apart from John Fearnalls marriage to Mary Pearce where it states, fathers name Joseph (deceased) However John's is the only Marriage where I have an actual copy of the certificate, for the marriages of Elizabeth, William, Robert, Ann and Maria, I only have typed out versions from The registers office containing the information. These typed out versions clearly state Fathers full name as Joseph Fearnall, carpet weaver. No mention of deceased. I suppose a typing error could have been? The only way to decide this would be to obtain more certificates?

I don't have a death certificate for Mary Fearnall I'm afraid.

I also have 2x baptism records for St Georges Chapel, Kidderminster. The first from 27/01/1831 John Farnall, parents Joseph and Mary, Mount Pleasant a weaver. The second 22/07/1833 Elizabeth Farnall, parents Joseph and Mary, Mount Pleasant a weaver. The dates are around the right time, a little earlier than the dates I have for birth?

Searches for the burial records for both Kidderminster Cemetry and St Georges Graveyard were completed but no records of Joseph Fearnall were located.

If sending for further certificates would help the search, I would gladly do that. I'm only reluctant due to making a few costly mistakes earlier on in my research.

I'm happy to scan in and upload any certificates I already have if that would help, you might just have to give me time as I'm new to this!

Thanks again.

[Northern Lass]

Ok added you to Benjamin Fearnall on Bcc

Nice one Bcwench finding that Joseph Fearnall.............so there are deffo 2 families

and Fearnall that death certif shows that it is the other JOspeh not yours................as on 1841 we have both josephs with their respective
families.

So we are still stuck.

-We need a death for our Joseph Fearnall
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =331808689

or a burial

might be an idea to send for this death certif
Mary Fearnell Dec Qtr 1882 Bridgnorth aged 80
I think that might be ours.............it may say widow of Joseph Fearnall carpet weaver on and the addy for her
so you would know it is yours..............but not sure it will help much more.

stuck

[Northern Lass]

might be an idea to see if you can look up those marriages at the relevant archives for free and see if it says deceased for father
might then narrow down death.....he is dead by 1861 accord to census

these 2 esp
Elizabeth Fearnall marriage 1853, to Richard Fellowes, fathers name Joseph Fearnall (carpet weaver)
William Fearnall marriage 1859 to Ann Handley, fathers name Joseph Fearnall (carpet weaver)

if doesnt say deceased and vicar normally wrote that down on other entries on view............then could well be alive .............somewhere!

[BC Wench]

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