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ARC TBC..................Samuel Nicholls

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Samuel Nicholls Born Abt 1980.married my Great Aunt Marion Isabel Spiers 1910 West Bromwich WBRO/50/158,
Father Samuel Nicholls 1868
Mother Elizabeth De Grey 1870
Maternal Grandfather William Henry DeGrey 1846
Maternal Grandmother Mary 1850
Great Grandfather William Henry DeGrey 1826
Great Grandmother Sarah Taylor.

Hale and Spires Family http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ale-Family

I think the same DeGrey family are on the BCC can we connect this family to mine please if that is possible. :grin: Dt
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Re: Samuel Nicholls

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Might connect to the BCC Hadleys as well. Why not, every other family in the BCC does :lol:

1881 census transcription details for: 4, Brades Road, Oldbury (Worcs)

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 2840
Folio: 4
Page: 1
Reg. District: West Bromwich
Sub District: Oldbury
Parish: Oldbury (Worcs)
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 4, Brades Road, Oldbury (Worcs)
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
DEGRAY, William Head Married M 34 1847 Fruiter Oldbury, Worcestershire
DEGRAY, Mary Wife Married F 31 1850 Rounds Green, Worcestershire
DEGRAY, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 11 1870 Scholar Rounds Green, Worcestershire
HADLEY, Aaron Brother To Wife Single M 20 1861 Coal Miner Rounds Green, Worcestershire
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Re: Samuel Nicholls

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Probably this Hadley family.

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ley-Family
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Maybe her second marriage.

Civil Registration event: Marriage

Name: DE GRAY, William Henry
Registration district: Dudley
County: Staffordshire
Year of registration: 1867
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 6C
Page no: 69

MarriageFinder: William Henry De Gray married one of the following people:

PRICE, Mary

SILVERS, Fanny

EDWARDS, John
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Married young (17 or 18) so I doubt she was a Widow. Have to delve into the Hadley connection.

groom's name: William Henry Degray
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Mary Price
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 10 Mar 1867
marriage place: Saint Thomas,Dudley,Worcester,England
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name:
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M04014-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 378778, 378779, 378780, 378781, 378782, 378783, 378784, 378785
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Re: Samuel Nicholls

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Logically, Aaron Hadley would be the step brother of William Henry De Grey and brother in law of Mary Price.

This William Henry De Grey

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... rey-Family

Is logically the first husband of Sarah Taylor who marries David Hadley when Henry kicks the bucket.

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... lor-Family

But we have Henry quite happily married to Mary Price in the 1881 census!!

So there must be two William Henry De Grey born abt 1846.

This is typical confusion as soon as Hadleys are involved....
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I can only find one birth.

Civil Registration event: Birth

Name: DE GRAY, William Henry
Registration district: West Bromwich
County: Staffordshire
Year of registration: 1846
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 18
Page no: 550
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Silly me, mixing up the older William Henry with the younger. I will blame the drugs...

So Aaron Hadley is William Henry De Gray Jnr's step brother and the brother in law of Mary Price.
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dudleytaylor wrote:Samuel Nicholls Born Abt 1980.married my Great Aunt Marion Isabel Spiers 1910 West Bromwich WBRO/50/158,
Father Samuel Nicholls 1868
Mother Elizabeth De Grey 1870
Maternal Grandfather William Henry DeGrey 1846
Maternal Grandmother Mary 1850
Great Grandfather William Henry DeGrey 1826
Great Grandmother Sarah Taylor.

Hale and Spires Family http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ale-Family

I think the same DeGrey family are on the BCC can we connect this family to mine please if that is possible. :grin: Dt


Do you have the marriage for this Marion Isabel spiers?
1910
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
NICHOLLS Samuel SPIERS Marian I West Bromwich Register Office (WBRO) Sandwell Register Office WBRO/50/158
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I need some census pls for Marion spiers and for Samuel nicholls before I connect

dob pls for Samuel
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =785256084

and dob and census for marion needed
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =494028980

ideally marriage but will connect based on given census info for the 2
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Need to spend a few bob on yer tree! Best RF
HALE Samuel MORGAN Mary Dudley Register Office Dudley Register Office DRO/002/125 1853

1851
MORGAN, Mary Head Widow F 57 1794 Housekeeper
Bristol, Somersetshire
MORGAN, Martha Daughter Unmarried F 21 1830 Dressmaker
Dudley, Worcestershire
MORGAN, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 18 1833
Dudley, Worcestershire
MARTIN, Michael Lodger Unmarried M 40 1811 Labourer (Chemical)
Ireland
MURPHY, William Lodger Unmarried M 23 1828 Cooper
Wigton, Cumberland
HEWSON, Danl Lodger Married M 22 1829 Cooper
Canlie, Cumberland
Stone Street West Bromwich
Staffordshire

1861
HALE, Samuel Head Married M 28 1833 Holloware Fitter
West Bromwich, Staffordshire
HALE, Mary Wife Married F 28 1833
Dudley, Worcestershire
HALE, William E Son M 7 1854 Scholar
Smethwick, Staffordshire
HALE, John Son M 5 1856 Scholar
Oldbury, Worcestershire
HALE, Elizabeth Daughter F 3 1858
Smethwick, Staffordshire
HALE, Samuel Son M 1 1860
Oldbury, Worcestershire
West Bromwich

Birmingham Road, Oldbury

Staffordshire
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1891 Census 131 Birmingham Road Oldbury
William Spiers 34 Head Brewers Clerk
Elizabeth Spiers 33 Wife
Ellen Beatrice Spiers 9 Daughter
Florence M Spiers 8
Marion s Spiers 2 months

1901 Census 131 Birmingham Road Oldbury
William Spiers 44 Head Brewers Clerk
Elizabeth Spiers 43 Spouse
Florence Spiers 18 daughter
Marian Spiers 10 Daughter

1911 Census 55 Stopsham Road Smethwick
William Spiers 54 Retired Clerk
Elizabeth Spiers 53 Spouse
MARION NICHOLLS 20 Daughter
SAMUEL NICHOLLS 20 SON IN LAW Occupation unreadable.
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rockyfowler wrote:Need to spend a few bob on yer tree! Best RF
HALE Samuel MORGAN Mary Dudley Register Office Dudley Register Office DRO/002/125 1853

1851
MORGAN, Mary Head Widow F 57 1794 Housekeeper
Bristol, Somersetshire
MORGAN, Martha Daughter Unmarried F 21 1830 Dressmaker
Dudley, Worcestershire
MORGAN, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 18 1833
Dudley, Worcestershire
MARTIN, Michael Lodger Unmarried M 40 1811 Labourer (Chemical)
Ireland
MURPHY, William Lodger Unmarried M 23 1828 Cooper
Wigton, Cumberland
HEWSON, Danl Lodger Married M 22 1829 Cooper






Stone Street

Staffordshire





This is the wrong side of the family
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Do not Know what you are on about Rf. I know my family inside out .I spend alot of time on it and money. I live in Worcester and i can not get to the archives in Dudley that easy. I ask to have it put on BCC to help others not just for myself . Is that not what the BCC is about.Joining up families ? :? .
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http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ers-Family This the Spiers and Hales.

Mary Morgan Married Samuel Hale , There daughter was Elizabeth Hale , She married William Spiers They are the parents of

ELLEN BEATRICE R SPIERS 1881
FLORENCE MARY SPIERS 1882 MY GRANDMOTHER
MARIAN ISABEL SPIERS 1891
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