ARC TBC - Trying to trace British ancestor born in Holland

[usignuolo]

Thanks for all this - very interesting. I had noticed the "Other" Jackson family in the area at the same time and wondered if they were related in any way.
Henry Jackson (see above posting) was born in 1826 in Islington - while my great great grandfather Alexander Jackson was born in 1828 in Holland but returned to Marylebone area by 1841. (In 1881 the family were living in Islington). Alexander only had one brother William but maybe Henry and Alexander had a common ancestor. Could they be cousins? One of Alexander's sons was called Henry James.

There is a sister too Annette - Henry's older sister maybe?- in Mark's post. She is listed as born in Holland in the Hague in 1806. My great great great Grandmother Mary Ann Jackson, Alexander's mother was also born in 1806. I have not traced where she was born but her son Alexander was born in the Netherlands in 1828. Maybe there is indeed a connection there somewhere. But how to find it?

Why would Brits be based or working in the Netherlands in the early 19c? Anyone know?
The only clue I have is they were tailors and dressmakers but that may not be relevant.

[peterd]

dont know if this is anything submitted

Any Event, 1821 - 1831, Netherlands Antilles

Henry Jackson
Christening: 28 MAY 1826 St George,St Vincents,Windward Islands, , , Caribbean
Father: Edward Jackson

[gardener]

I do not have the full marriage certificate for the wedding of Alexander Jackson and Louise Rietiker at St Pancras in London in July 1853. The abridged version I have seen does not give parents names. Which is the best site to to go to to view/buy a copy of their full marriage certificate? If Alexander's father was dead, would he be on the marriage certificate?

I know that Alexander worked as a tailor and that Louisa was from a family of Swiss origin, also tailors. They all lived in the Marylebone area of London.

On the 1891 census it describes Alexander Jackson as a master tailor and gives his place of birth as Holland. It says (British Subject) in brackets. This suggests he had British parents although I agree it is not definitive. He was born in 1828.

We know by the 1841 census Alexander was living in London with his mother Mary Ann Jackson and brother William, in Dorset Steet, London. There is no husband shown for Mary Ann and she is not described as wife etc. She was born in 1806, in Surrey. Although the script is hard to make out it appears she was a Dressmaker (although by 1851 she seems to have become a butcher and is listed as Head of Household. Alexander was lodging round the corner as a tailor).

My brother had the bright idea of looking up embarkation records from Holland and found a Mary Jackson arriving from Antwerp in 1837. Could be a connection. I wonder if the tailoring and dress making is significant. Maybe the father was working in Holland on dress uniforms or formal evening dress of some kind. But that is only a guess.

In theory the marriage certificate should name Alexander's father and give his occupation, if deceased it should say so. But this is not totally reliable and sometimes a father is nots aid to be deceased when in fact he was.

Are you sure that the 1851 census with Mary Ann a butcher is the correct one? I did see one entry like that but it seemed to have a few extra children so I must be looking at the wrong one.

The 1841 entry (assuming it is the same Alexander) has Mary Ann' s birth year as 1806 but the census instructions that year were to round down to the nearest 0 or 5 so if down as 35 she could have been up to 39. She is said to have been born in county.

[usignuolo]

Thanks again for all this - will report back to my brother who is working on this with me.

Regarding Mary AnnJackson. She is in the 1841 census living in Marylebone with her two sons Alexander and William and her age is given as 35 which would mean she was born in 1806. There is no male head of household or husband recorded. There is only one Mary I can find in the 1851 census in the same area, who was born in 1806 and is not a spouse, ie single or widowed, and that is the one who is the butcher. Alexander was by then a tailor living in lodgings just round the corner from her 1851 address. So I assumed it must be his mother, but maybe not will pass on the information and discuss with my brother.

Mm Dutch Antilles even more interesting will also discuss with my brother.

[peterd]

Thanks again for all this - will report back to my brother who is working on this with me.

Regarding Mary AnnJackson. She is in the 1841 census living in Marylebone with her two sons Alexander and William and her age is given as 35 which would mean she was born in 1806. There is no male head of household or husband recorded. There is only one Mary I can find in the 1851 census in the same area, who was born in 1806 and is not a spouse, ie single or widowed, and that is the one who is the butcher. Alexander was by then a tailor living in lodgings just round the corner from her 1851 address. So I assumed it must be his mother, but maybe not will pass on the information and discuss with my brother.

Mm Dutch Antilles even more interesting will also discuss with my brother.

Hi Unsign as gardener said cause she was 35 in the 1841 census doesnt neccesary means she was born 1806 as all adults ages were rounded down so she could have been born anytime in between (late 1801 to 1806)

[gardener]

I don't know if this is connected or not... second pair of eyes perhaps?

1851
St Pancras
Mary Ann Jackson head W 53 laquerer of brass work, Middlesex, Westminster
Alexander ditto son u 22 brass finisher, ditto, Clerkenwell
Ann Robinson niece u 23 servent, ditto, ditto
Charlotte Miles, ditto 4, ditto, St Pancras
HO107/1494/192


Charlotte Miles is perhaps the daughter of Samuel William Miles and Mary Ann, bpt St Pancras 5th Apr 1847 (born 28th Feb 1847)
Marriage for Samuel William Miles to Mary Ann Robinson 5th Apr 1846 St Pancras

I think that the 1841 census with Mary Ann Jackson aged 35, has a Mary Ann Robinson 18 next below Alexander?

Not totally convinced that this is "right" but just want to note it here in case it comes in handy some time

[usignuolo]

Thanks for that will check it out

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