COMPLETED.............Amos Hughes

nailer2011 · Post by **nailer2011** » Fri May 27, 2011 8:12 pm

Sorry, I dont have any certificates for Amos Hughes, son of Ann Maria Kendrick. I obtained the information from an extract of the parish records for St Peter's, Cradley and subsequent censuses. I assumed the father, Amos, was the one who died in 1854. :oops:

There is a possible marriage of son, Amos, to Elizabeth Robins in Old Swinford on 23 September 1872 and from census records they seem to have had at least 4 children ; Thomas (1874), Ann M (1875), Amos (1878-1940) and Ann (1896).

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Sat May 28, 2011 9:27 am

Split this off as I wondered what happened to Amos that is on census with brothers in 1861

that is the one that it looks like marries Ann Maria Kendrick
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=46196021

1861: Birmingham St, Dudley, Worc
Amos Hughes 33 Head Marr nailor
George Hughes 30 - U Nailor
Joseph Hughes 27 - U Lab
Joseph Kendrick 27 Lodger U Moulder
James Kendrick 18 Lodger U Lab
Eliza Kendrick 17 Lodger U Servant
(all born Dudley)

the ages need inverting for Joseph and George should be other way round (Joseph b 1831/George b 1834)

Is this Amos on 1871?
is there a death?
does he marry?

it looks like for some reason Amos and Ann Maria split up
she is down as widowed on 1861 with parents
and Amos is with these Kendricks that may or may not link to Ann Maria

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Sat May 28, 2011 11:33 am

nailer2011 wrote:Sorry, I dont have any certificates for Amos Hughes, son of Ann Maria Kendrick. I obtained the information from an extract of the parish records for St Peter's, Cradley and subsequent censuses. I assumed the father, Amos, was the one who died in 1854.

There is a possible marriage of son, Amos, to Elizabeth Robins in Old Swinford on 23 September 1872 and from census records they seem to have had at least 4 children ; Thomas (1874), Ann M (1875), Amos (1878-1940) and Ann (1896).

I am going to need that Birth certif for Amos I will order it
1854
HUGHES Amos Halesowen Dudley Register Office HAL/013/183

I have the marriage for Amos Jnr

it throws confusion as to which Amos it is!!

the Amos who marries Elizabeth Robins in 1872 puts father Amos Hughes Bricklayer

now the Amos with Kendricks on 1861 is a nailer

but....he calls son Thomas

so is this one............

1851: Birmingham St, Dudley, Staffs
Thomas Hughes 63 Bricklayer
Alice Hughes 53
Amos Hughes 22 Son U Nailmaker
Joseph Hughes 19 Son U Lab
George Hughes 16 Son Moulder /Journeyman
Daniel Hughes 14 Son Lab
(all born Dudley, Worc)

or this one..............
1851: Homer Hill, Cradley, Worc
John Hughes 56 Bricklayer
Hannah Hughes 56
Amos Hughes 18 Son U Bricklayer
Ellen Hughes 12 dau
Charles Edmunds 22 Son in Law Marr Pudler of Iron
Mona Edmunds 21 Dau
Frank Edmunds 1 Grd Son
(all born Cradley, Worc)

ours ie the one that married ann maria here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =137964021

plus father not down as deceased on marriage

what did the Cradley bapt for Amos say nailer?

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Sat May 28, 2011 11:42 am

I think this is the one on the 1861
1880
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HUGHES Amos ALLEN Pamella Dudley, St James Dudley Register Office 202/008/417

but need to look it up ...but St James is where Eliza Kendrick married Thomas Devonport.

So can we find Amos b 1829 on other census after 1861 or a death pls

and what do we think?

which Amos married Ann Maria

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Sat May 28, 2011 11:55 am

this looks like the 1827 one that dies 1891

Deaths Mar 1891
Hughes Amos 64 Dudley 6c 55

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Sat May 28, 2011 12:07 pm

but then why does the one in 1861 have Kendricks with him

and why does Amos name son Thomas or is he a Henry aged 17 on 1891

they are living Lye

nailer2011 · Post by **nailer2011** » Sat May 28, 2011 7:57 pm

It seems to me that the correct AMOS HUGHES (the one that married Ann Maria Kendrick) is the one in Homer Hill, Cradley in 1851(the bricklayer).

The marriage certificate for Ann Maria and John Guest clearly states that she was a widow at the time, which is consistent with THE Amos being the one who died in 1854. The death certificate would resolve this.

The KENDRICK family of Ann Maria is father Joseph and mother Ann Louisa HARPER; Joseph and Ann Louisa were married in Clent on 8 August 1830.

The family are shown in Two Gates, Cradley in both the 1841 and 1851 censuses and the first '1857 Notebook of Reverend Thompson' shows that Joseph and Ann were still living in Two Gates, Cradley (on the north side of the lane) with their daughter, Maria Hughes ('Widow') and their grandson, Amos Hughes (born abt 1854), plus their own children, Solomon, William, Alfred and Leah.

A copy of the birth certificate of daughter LEAH shows she was born in Two Gates, Cradley on 6 December 1851 and that her mother was Ann Louisa Kendrick formerly HARPER; her father is confirmed as JOSEPH KENDRICK, Nailer.

Perhaps someone can find a link between Joseph and the other Kendricks that you have identified. :?:

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Sun May 29, 2011 8:53 am

nailer2011 wrote:It seems to me that the correct AMOS HUGHES (the one that married Ann Maria Kendrick) is the one in Homer Hill, Cradley in 1851(the bricklayer).

The marriage certificate for Ann Maria and John Guest clearly states that she was a widow at the time, which is consistent with THE Amos being the one who died in 1854. The death certificate would resolve this.

The KENDRICK family of Ann Maria is father Joseph and mother Ann Louisa HARPER; Joseph and Ann Louisa were married in Clent on 8 August 1830.

The family are shown in Two Gates, Cradley in both the 1841 and 1851 censuses and the first '1857 Notebook of Reverend Thompson' shows that Joseph and Ann were still living in Two Gates, Cradley (on the north side of the lane) with their daughter, Maria Hughes ('Widow') and their grandson, Amos Hughes (born abt 1854), plus their own children, Solomon, William, Alfred and Leah.

A copy of the birth certificate of daughter LEAH shows she was born in Two Gates, Cradley on 6 December 1851 and that her mother was Ann Louisa Kendrick formerly HARPER; her father is confirmed as JOSEPH KENDRICK, Nailer.

Perhaps someone can find a link between Joseph and the other Kendricks that you have identified.

Thanks Nailer I agree with you and going to connect to the other Amos with a note
the fact he is a bricklayer on sons marriage I think clinches it

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Sun May 29, 2011 11:40 am

nailer2011 wrote:It seems to me that the correct AMOS HUGHES (the one that married Ann Maria Kendrick) is the one in Homer Hill, Cradley in 1851(the bricklayer).

The marriage certificate for Ann Maria and John Guest clearly states that she was a widow at the time, which is consistent with THE Amos being the one who died in 1854. The death certificate would resolve this.

The KENDRICK family of Ann Maria is father Joseph and mother Ann Louisa HARPER; Joseph and Ann Louisa were married in Clent on 8 August 1830.

The family are shown in Two Gates, Cradley in both the 1841 and 1851 censuses and the first '1857 Notebook of Reverend Thompson' shows that Joseph and Ann were still living in Two Gates, Cradley (on the north side of the lane) with their daughter, Maria Hughes ('Widow') and their grandson, Amos Hughes (born abt 1854), plus their own children, Solomon, William, Alfred and Leah.

A copy of the birth certificate of daughter LEAH shows she was born in Two Gates, Cradley on 6 December 1851 and that her mother was Ann Louisa Kendrick formerly HARPER; her father is confirmed as JOSEPH KENDRICK, Nailer.

Perhaps someone can find a link between Joseph and the other Kendricks that you have identified.

So Sarah aged 9 is Leah
1861: Two Gates, Cradley, Worc
Joseph Kendrick 52 Horse nailor
Ann Kendrick 51 Nailor
Ann M Guest 27 Boarder Wid Nailor
Salomon Kindrick 20 Son U Ag Lab
William Kindrick 12 Son
Alfred H Kindrick 11 Son
Sarah Kindrick 9 dau
Amos Hughes 6 Boarder
Sarah A Guest 2 Boarder
(all born Cradley)

1851
KENDRICK Leah Halesowen Dudley Register Office HAL/011/17

do you have the Clent one I can post it if you havent

do you have the marriges for Amos and Elizabeth and for Amos son
if not I will post them on Bcc soon

nailer2011 · Post by **nailer2011** » Sun May 29, 2011 9:06 pm

Sorry I am not better organised :oops:

; here is a summary of what I have:

LDS record which shows marriage of Joseph KENDRICK to Ann Louiza HARPER in Parish Church Clent on 8 August 1830 (batch no M035173).
LDS record of christening of Ann Maria KENDRICK in Cradley on 13 October 1833 (batch no 7718625)

Copy of an extracts of the Parish Registers from St Peter's Church, Cradley showing the christening of Amos Hughes on 14 August 1832; his father is shown as JOHN and his mother as HANNAH. There are also christenings of other children of John and Hannah - Maria, on 7 March 1824; Mary, on 21 September 1828; Mona, on 12 September 1830; Abigail, on 14 September 1834; Ahal :?:

on 22 May 1836; and Jane, on 7 April 1839. There are also christenings in Park lane Presbyterian Church, Cradley of a Matilda, on 3 July 1822 and of an Isaiah, on 11 June 1826; whose parents are also shown as John and Hannah Hughes.

I have a copy of a parish record shown on findmypast of the burial of Amos Hughes in the graveyard of St Peter's Church, Cradley on 5 April 1854, aged 21 years. BMD index confirms his death in the June quarter of 1854. Do you think it is necessary to get the death certificate :?:

If so, I will obtain.

The extract of St Peter's registers also shows the christening of son, Amos, on 19 November 1854; father Amos Hughes and mother, Ann Maria.

I dont have a copy of the certificates you refered to and details wiould be appreciated.

Sorry, I have not been clearer in previous posts, but I had to look back at things I did some time ago as my focus has been on Ann Maria's daughter, Sarah Ann Guest; more of that later. :-)

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Mon May 30, 2011 1:36 pm

thanks Nailer I am adding bits for Amos now so will update Bcc

going to close off this one as done on this I think for Amos

just open a new thread on another ancestor you need help with

:grin:

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Mon May 30, 2011 2:01 pm

unable to add bapt for Ann maria in actual ancestor template as it is submitted
would need to be verified
so will note in notes

ANN MARIA KENDRICK Pedigree
Female

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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 13 OCT 1833 Cradley, Worcester, England

Death:
Burial:

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Parents:
Father: JOSEPH KENDRICK Family
Mother: ANN

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