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Re: Joseph Hipkiss b abt 1806

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Marriage from Transcripts

23 July 1810 Clent
Willam (signed Wm) Robinson bach of the Parish of Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Beasley spr ots
banns
wit- Benjamin Beasley / X Elizabeth Robinson
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Well I am totally confused now!! Did Elizabeth wife of Wm Robinson Marry twice :?:


ELIZA BEASELEY Birth: 15 FEB 1808
Christening: 10 AUG 1819 Cradley, Worcester,
Parents:
Mother: ELIZABETH BEASELEY Extracted
Eliza illegitimate da of Elizabeth Beasley Upper End (think this was part of Overend) said to have been born 15.2.1808.

MARY ANN BEASELEY Birth: 19 APR 1805
Christening: 10 AUG 1819 Cradley, Worcester,
Parents:
Mother: ELIZABETH BEASELEY Extracted
Says the same as for Elizabeth illegitimate da of Elizabeth Upper End

Next entry same date:-
10.8.1819 Richard son of Wm and Elizabeth Robinson Upper End Nail Factor born 2.1.1813
10.8.1819 Harvey son of Wm and Elizabeth Robinson Upper End Nail Factor born 6.6.1815
10.8.1819 Tobias son of Wm and Elizabeth Robinson Upper End Nail Factor born 22.12.1817

Elizabeth Beasley and Elizabeth Robinson must be one of the same.
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linell wrote:
Elizabeth Beasley and Elizabeth Robinson must be one of the same.


It looks like it to me.
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Jimmy wrote:I can't see a marriage anywhere, but someone as this on Pedigree Resource File, on Familysearch.

Joseph Hipkiss.

Death: 1856. Cradley, Worcestershire.

Burial: 20 Nov 1856. Cradley, Worcestershire.

Eliza Beasley.
Marriage: 12 Apr 1830. Oldswinford, Worcestershire.

Baptism: 28 Dec 1805. Cradley, Worcestershire.


But there is this one, on the same date.

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JOSEPH HIPKINS.
ELIZA ROBINSON.
Marriage, 12 APR 1830. Old Swinford, Worcester.


So do's that mean these are the persons.
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Jimmy wrote:
linell wrote:
Elizabeth Beasley and Elizabeth Robinson must be one of the same.


It looks like it to me.



eliza robinson wit could be a sister to william ?
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Hi Jimmy, yes it has to be the same Eliza, seem to use both names!! I will add them for look ups.

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Im getting completely lost on this
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1849
FORREST William HIPKISS Elizabeth Oldbury, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office 12/1/213

Vicars notebook 1857 has this
608
Forrest William Nailer Baptist Sacrament
Elizabeth Baptist Sacrament daur of 637
3 children
Charles 5 un baptised
Albert 3 unbaptised
Harriet 1
Her brother James Hipkiss 21 Church Puddler

637
Hipkiss John Iron No church or baptist Seldom son in law of 664
Mary Baptist sacrement daur of 626
5 Children
John 19 July Corngreaves church seldom unbaptised
Moses 16 Mar Corngreaves Church Seldom unbaptised
Sarah 14 Nov Home Baptist school night school unbaptised
William 12 Sep Corngreaves Baptist schoolnight school unbaptised
David 10 May Corngreaves baptist school night school unbaptised[/color]

664
Hipkiss Sarah Widow Rag Mill church sometimes sacrament here 31 years
Granddaughter Sarah Ann Oliver 5 June Downes School

626
Robinson Sarah Single no church was TTOP
2 children
Henry 17 work no church
Emily 12 baptist school national school
Her brother Harvey Robinson no church nails single
Her Mother Elizabeth Robinson 70 ill catechuamen
Hipkiss John Iron No church or baptist Seldom son in law of 664
How can he be the son in law of Sarah Hipkiss if Marys mother was Elizabeth Robinson
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Hi Kay, yes I saw that too, think it must be a mistake, John was son not Son In Law:-

Hipkiss John Iron No church or baptist Seldom son in law of 664

I think I am right without checking that John 1803 is next door to his parents Moses and Sarah on a couple of Census entries in Overend.

Am still confused though :!:

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Ok ....

Elizabeth Beasley has 2 illeg kids
Eliza Beasley who marries Joseph Hipkiss
and
Mary Ann Beasley who marries John Hipkiss

Eliza and Mary take name Robinson to marry
but are Beasleys


Now John is son in law to Sarah warr
she married his father moses hipkiss
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664
Hipkiss Sarah Widow Rag Mill church sometimes sacrament here 31 years
Granddaughter Sarah Ann Oliver 5 June Downes School

dau sarah marries an Oliver
see here
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Is this igi bapt incorrect then

IGI-HARVEY ROBINSON. Christening, 06 JUN 1815. Cradley, Worcester. Parents: WILLIAM ROBINSON. ELIZABETH.

were they all bapt 10 aug 1819
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Cradley Baptisms
6 6 1815 Harvey Robinson Robinson William Elizabeth Overend Bookkeeper
10 8 1819 Richard Robinson William Elizabeth Upperend nail Factor 2.1.1813
10 8 1819 Tobias ROBINSON William Elizabeth Upperend nail factor 22.12.1817
1 4 1821 Sarah ROBINSON William Elizabeth Upperend nail factor
30 3 1823 Moses Thomas ROBINSON William Elizabeth Cradley nail factor
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linell wrote:Well I am totally confused now!! Did Elizabeth wife of Wm Robinson Marry twice :?:


ELIZA BEASELEY Birth: 15 FEB 1808
Christening: 10 AUG 1819 Cradley, Worcester,
Parents:
Mother: ELIZABETH BEASELEY Extracted
Eliza illegitimate da of Elizabeth Beasley Upper End (think this was part of Overend) said to have been born 15.2.1808.

MARY ANN BEASELEY Birth: 19 APR 1805
Christening: 10 AUG 1819 Cradley, Worcester,
Parents:
Mother: ELIZABETH BEASELEY Extracted
Says the same as for Elizabeth illegitimate da of Elizabeth Upper End

Next entry same date:-
10.8.1819 Richard son of Wm and Elizabeth Robinson Upper End Nail Factor born 2.1.1813
10.8.1819 Harvey son of Wm and Elizabeth Robinson Upper End Nail Factor born 6.6.1815
10.8.1819 Tobias son of Wm and Elizabeth Robinson Upper End Nail Factor born 22.12.1817

Elizabeth Beasley and Elizabeth Robinson must be one of the same.


I'd already found them here............
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kdw wrote:Cradley Baptisms
6 6 1815 Harvey Robinson Robinson William Elizabeth Overend Bookkeeper
10 8 1819 Richard Robinson William Elizabeth Upperend nail Factor 2.1.1813
10 8 1819 Tobias ROBINSON William Elizabeth Upperend nail factor 22.12.1817
1 4 1821 Sarah ROBINSON William Elizabeth Upperend nail factor
30 3 1823 Moses Thomas ROBINSON William Elizabeth Cradley nail factor


There are two baps for Harvey, 6.6.1815 and 10.8.1819 - nothing is straight forward with this family.

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I think we should wait for the Marriage Look Ups and then work downwards from Elizabeth Beasley, her children, then the children of Wm and Elizabeth Robinson. (Just a thought :!: )

Some of the info is already on BCC:-

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