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ARC TBC - james Hackett 1768

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:32 pm
by corner_shop
This family needs looking at on your BBC site
IMO the orginal first son Josiah died the very next year making Josiah hackett/Sarah Priest connection invalid

RECORD OF BURIAL. 23 Dec 1791. Staffordshire Parish Registers Rowley Regis St Giles Vol 3 (1772-1812) page 728
Josiah Hackett buried.

A second Josiah was born

RECORD OF CHRISTENING. 29 Mar 1837. Halesowen St Johns register Page 56, Item 443
Josiah son of James and Hannah Hackett, Nailer, Gosty Hill, said to be born on 27 Jan 1811.

The proof is in the census for his brother Benjamin Hackett (1806) on the 1871 census

1871 BRITISH CENSUS. RG10/2995/129 page 5 sch 23, Lawrence Lane, Reddall Hill, Rowley Regis, Staffs
Benjamen Hacket, Head, Widr, 64, Nailer, Rowley Regis, Staffs
Jesse Hacket, Nephew, Unm, 19, Nailer, Rowley Regis, Staffs
Thomas Hacket, Nephew, Unm, 16, Nailer, Rowley Regis, Staffs
Levi Hacket, Nephew, Unm, 13, Rowley Regis, Staffs
John Mallen, Boarder, Unm, 24, Stocktaker in Iron works, Tipton, Staffs
Harriet Hacket, Boarder, Unm, 22, Rowley Regis, Staffs
Joseph Mallen, Grandson, 2, Rowley Regis, Staffs.

The 3 nephews are Josiahs sons from his second marriage

1861 BRITISH CENSUS. RG9/2039/86 page 52 sch 283, Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis
Josiah Hackett, Head, Mar, 50, Nail Maker, Rowley Regis, Staffs
Elizabeth Harris, Wife, Mar, 40, Dudley, Worcs
Olive Hackett, Dau, 18, Rowley Regis, Staffs
Benjamin Hackett, Son, 15, Rowley Regis, Staffs
James Hackett, Son, 13, Rowley Regis, Staffs
Jeshuren Hackett, Son, 9, Rowley Regis, Staffs
Thomas Hackett, Son, 7, Rowley Regis, Staffs
Elihu Hackett, Son, 5, Rowley Regis, Staffs
Moses Hackett, Son, 1, Rowley Regis, Staffs
Hannah Handley, Stepdau, Unm, 19, Rowley Regis, Staffs
Joseph Handley, Stepson, 16, Rowley Regis, Staffs
William Handley, Grandson, 5m, Rowley Regis, Staffs.

Re: james Hackett 1768

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:53 pm
by expat66
So this Josiah
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ett-Family

should be listed as one of the children of this James?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ett-Family

Expat

Re: james Hackett 1768

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:07 pm
by expat66
Could this be a possible marriage for Benjamin Hackett ... from www.familysearch.org?

Groom's Name: Benjamin Hackett
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Sarah Male
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 15 Sep 1834
Marriage Place: Saint Thomas,Dudley,Worcester,England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M04014-4
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 378770
Reference Number:

Expat

Re: james Hackett 1768

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:14 pm
by corner_shop
the 1st post reply - yes
the 2nd post reply - yes

Re: james Hackett 1768

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:20 pm
by peterd
RECORD OF BURIAL. 23 Dec 1791. Staffordshire Parish Registers Rowley Regis St Giles Vol 3 (1772-1812) page 728
Josiah Hackett buried.



how do you associate this burial with josiah hackett son of james and hannah hackett ? this is poss a josiah hackett who is not a child poss a young adult ?

look at inscription directly below its state a child of ........... or d of ........... or s of ..........

if this josiah hackett who died 1791 only 18 months old would you expect it to follow the same format as above ? what do you think ?

Re: james Hackett 1768

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:23 pm
by peterd
census for josiah c 1790 ? down as son of james and hannah ?

1841. Pear Tree St.
Josia Hackett 50. Nail maker.
Sarah Hackett 50.
Phaby Hackett 20.
Juley Hackett 15.
Marya Hackett 15.
Elizebeth Hackett 14. Sarah Hackett 10.
Thomas Hackett 8.
James Hackett 4.
Jane Hackett 1.
All born in County.

1851. Pear Tree St.
Josiah Hackett 61. Chainmaker.
Sarah Hackett 59.
Sarah Hackett 20. Dau.
Thomas Hackett 18. Son. Chainmaker.
James Hackett 13. Son.
Jane Hackett 11. Dau.
Elizabeth Hackett 5. Niece.
Mary Foley 26. Lodger.
Jane Foley 3.
Ann Maria 1 Mo. Dau.

Re: james Hackett 1768

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:25 pm
by expat66
expat66 wrote:Could this be a possible marriage for Benjamin Hackett ... from http://www.familysearch.org?

Groom's Name: Benjamin Hackett
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Sarah Male
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 15 Sep 1834
Marriage Place: Saint Thomas,Dudley,Worcester,England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M04014-4
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 378770
Reference Number:

Expat



and could this be her Christening?

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 for Sarah Male
Name: Sarah Male
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 01 Dec 1811
Baptism/Christening Place: HALESOWEN,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Nehemiah Male
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01376-2
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 886634
Reference Number:

Expat

Re: james Hackett 1768

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:29 pm
by linell
Could this be a possible marriage for Benjamin Hackett ... from http://www.familysearch.org?

Groom's Name: Benjamin Hackett
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Sarah Male
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 15 Sep 1834
Marriage Place: Saint Thomas,Dudley,Worcester,England


Could be Expat, perhaps you can add this for a Look Up, there were loads of Ben Hacketts though. :o

Linell.

Re: james Hackett 1768

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:34 pm
by corner_shop
It is a discussion forum, its just my opinion that the first Josiah died and they reused the name later on, it would be unlikely that there would be 2 living Josiahs in the same family, also there were 2 elizabeths and 2 James, so they did reuse the name quite a bit

Re: james Hackett 1768

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:39 pm
by peterd
corner_shop wrote:It is a discussion forum, its just my opinion that the first Josiah died and they reused the name later on, it would be unlikely that there would be 2 living Josiahs in the same family, also there were 2 elizabeths and 2 James, so they did reuse the name quite a bit



the question is corner shop how do you asscoiate the death of josiah hackett 1791 with james and hannah ?

Re: james Hackett 1768

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:50 pm
by peterd
extracted

SELINA HACKETT
Christening: 16 MAR 1811 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

Father: JAS. HACKETT
Mother: HANH.


also one you indicated

JOSIAH HACKETT
Birth: 27 JAN 1811
Christening: 29 MAR 1837 Halesowen, Worcester,

Father: JAMES HACKETT
Mother: HANNAH


if selina and josiah are brother and sister why weren't they both christened on the 16 mar 1811 ?

Re: james Hackett 1768

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:08 pm
by peterd
1871 BRITISH CENSUS. RG10/2995/129 page 5 sch 23, Lawrence Lane, Reddall Hill, Rowley Regis, Staffs

Benjamen Hacket, Head, Widr, 64, Nailer, Rowley Regis, Staffs
Jesse Hacket, Nephew, Unm, 19, Nailer, Rowley Regis, Staffs
Thomas Hacket, Nephew, Unm, 16, Nailer, Rowley Regis, Staffs
Levi Hacket, Nephew, Unm, 13, Rowley Regis, Staffs

John Mallen, Boarder, Unm, 24, Stocktaker in Iron works, Tipton, Staffs
Harriet Hacket, Boarder, Unm, 22, Rowley Regis, Staffs
Joseph Mallen, Grandson, 2, Rowley Regis, Staffs


if these are josiah sons where levi and jess in the 1861 and thomas is 18 in 1851 28 in 1861 ?


1851. Pear Tree St.
Josiah Hackett 61. Chainmaker.
Sarah Hackett 59.
Sarah Hackett 20. Dau.
Thomas Hackett 18. Son. Chainmaker.
James Hackett 13. Son.
Jane Hackett 11. Dau.
Elizabeth Hackett 5. Niece.
Mary Foley 26. Lodger.
Jane Foley 3.
Ann Maria 1 Mo. Dau.

1861. Peartree St, Rowley Regis.
Josiah Hackett 72. Widow.
Elizabeth Hackett 34. Dau. unmarried.
Thomas Hackett 28. Son. Chainmaker. unmarried.
James Hackett 7. Grandson.
Jane Floray 13. Dau.

Re: james Hackett 1768

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:09 pm
by corner_shop
What I have written is what it says in the replacement fire and water damaged translation books, I know its lacking the points you mentioned, so your conclusion could be right, but it might not.
to look at book go to http://www.archive.org and find the rowley regis book, do a search on the pdf file
What should be done is to look for a foolproof connection between Josiah Hackett / Sarah Priest and James Hackett, is there one?

Re: james Hackett 1768

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:12 pm
by peterd
poss jesse 1881

1881; Coombs Wood Cottage, The Hill, Worcester

Jesse HACKETT 28 Gosty Hill, Worcester, Fitter Gas Tube Works
Elizabeth HACKETT 30 Princes End, Stafford, Fitters Wife
John Joseph HACKETT 6 Great Bridge, Stafford, Scholar
Sarah Elizabeth HACKETT 3 Birmingham, Warwick, Scholar
John Joseph JENNINGS (MEACHAM) Boarder 28 Princes End, Stafford, Bank Clerk Unemployed


marriage look up will give use his father

HACKETT Jesse MEACHAM Elizabeth 1873 West Bromwich, All Saints West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 22/13/333

Re: james Hackett 1768

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:15 pm
by peterd
corner_shop wrote:What I have written is what it says in the replacement fire and water damaged translation books, I know its lacking the points you mentioned, so your conclusion could be right, but it might not.
to look at book go to http://www.archive.org and find the rowley regis book, do a search on the pdf file
What should be done is to look for a foolproof connection between Josiah Hackett / Sarah Priest and James Hackett, is there one?



yes ive got the books as you can download the pdf and search it

will try to get a marriage look up for jesse will see if it say father josiah ?

jesse could be james kid (josiah and benjamin brother) no marriage yet for him