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Linell has a Poole family :-
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On 1841 Census Linell notes a Sarah Poole born 1826 who married a John Russ but does not record daughter Sarah Ann Poole born 1837
I have a Sarah Poole born 1835/1836 who married a John Holden on 20/7/1863 Dudley.(Could be same one as locations fit)

Their son William Holden went on to marry an Emma Parsons in 1883 and I am trying to find where she fits in Parsons family

1851 Census Blackheath Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Meriah Holden Head married 41 Nailer
Elizabeth Holden dau 20 Nailer
Meriah Holden dau 16 Nailer
John Holden 14 Nailer
Thomas Holden 2 born Rowley Staffs.
Jane Holden dau 1mth born Rowley Staffs.
Mary Priest lodger 18 Brickmaker
Rest born Worcs.

1861 Census Blackheath Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Thomas Holden Head 53 Sinker
Maria Holden wife married 51 Nailer
Elizabeth Holden dau 29 Nailer
John Holden son 24 Nailer
Jane Holden dau 10 Nailer
All born Netherton Worcs.

HOLDEN William PARSONS Emma Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/038/41 1883
HOLDEN John POOLE Sarah Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/021/406 1863

1871 Census Halesowen Road Gosty Hill Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
John Holden Head 34 Nailer born Netherton Worcs.
Sarah Holden wife 36 Nailer Born Halesowen Worcs.
William Holden son 7 Scholar
Eliza Holden dau 2
Benjamin Pool visitor 56 Rivet Maker
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.

1881 Census Malt Mill Lane Cottage Hill Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
John Holden Head 43 Nail Maker born Netherton Worcs.
Sarah Holden wife 45 Nail Maker Born Halesowen Worcs.
William Holden son 17 Nail Maker
Eliza Holden dau 12 Nail Maker
Thomas Holden son 7 Scholar
Thomas Holden father Widower 73 born Netherton Worcs.
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.

1891 Malt Mill Lane Hill Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
William Holden Head 27 Rivet Maker
Emma Holden wife 28 born Smethwick Staffs.
Joseph Holden son 5 Scholar
Eliza R. Holden dau 9mths.
born Halesowen Worcs.
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.


1901 Malt Mill Lane Hill Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
William Holden Head 37 Rivet Maker
Emma Holden wife 38 born Halsowen Worcs.
Joseph Holden son 15 Asst. Draper
Eliza R. Holden dau 10 born Halesowen Worcs.
born Halesowen Worcs.
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.

This is getting weird as I have possibly found another link back to Linell ( Every time I reserarch I find connections to Linell)
Joseph Holden born 1886 son of William Holden and Emma Parsons married a Florence Smart and in 1911 Census they are living next door to a Widow Louisa Holden born 1874 Cradley who was widow of Thomas Holden born 1874 son of John & Sarah Holden.
Louisa is I believe Louisa Shaw daughter of William Shaw born 1844 Cradley Worcs. Louisa ? on Linells tree
I will post Census details later when wife is at Hairdressers which is going to cost me ( The things I do for bcc)

1901 Census Malt Mill Lane Hill Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
John Holden Head 64 Paralysed born Netherton Staffs.
Sarah Holden wife 66 born Halesowen Worcs.
Thomas Holden son 27 Plasterer born Rowley Regis Staffs.

Next door to William & Emma Holden

1911 Census 38 Maltmill Lane Blackheath Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
Louisa Holden Head (wid) 34 born Cradley Worcs.
Rebecca Holden dau 7 School
Florence Holden dau 5 School
Lily Holden dau 2 School
Rest born Halesowen Worcs.
8 years married

Thomas Holden married Louisa Shaw at Cradley Holy Trinity 1903

Next door at 39 :-
Joseph Holden Head 25 Oliver Forger Makes Rivet Bolts and Swage Work Known as Oddwork born Blackheath Staffs.
Florence Holden wife 27 born Blackheath Staffs.
Lawrence Holden son 3
Marion Holden dau 1
Frederick Holden son 1
Born Halesowen Worcs.
4 years married
Florence Smart married Joseph Holden Blackheath St.Pauls 1906

Linells post :-http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bcconnections&view=0&pid=37794&rand=265825929

1861 Census Nether End Cradley Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
Robert Shaw Head 49 Chain Maker born Halesowen Worcs.
Ann Brookes wife 49
Samuel Shaw son 24 Chain Maker
Joseph Shaw son 19 Chain Maker
William Shaw son 17 Chain Maker
David Shaw son 15 Chain Maker
Timothy Shaw son 13 Truss Maker
Alfred Shaw son 10 Truss Maker
Jotham Shaw son 8 Scholar
Robert Shaw son 4
Rest born Cradley Worcs.

1871 Census Lyde Green Cradley Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
William Shaw 27 Chain Maker
Louisa Shaw wife 26
Mary E. Shaw dau 5
Lucy Shaw dau 3
Martha A Shaw dau 0
All born Cradley Worcs.

Brother Alfred and Wife live next door

1881 Census Lyde Green Cradley Halesowen Worcs.
William Shaw 37 Chain Maker
Louisa Shaw wife 36
David Shaw brother 35 Chain Maker
Mary E. Shaw dau 15 Chain Maker
Lucy Shaw dau 13 Scholar
Martha A Shaw dau 10 Scholar
Samuel W. Shaw son 7 Scholar
Louisa Shaw dau 4 Scholar
Emily Shaw dau 1
All born Cradley Worcs.

1891 Census Lyde Green Cradley Halesowen Worcs.
William Shaw 47 Chain Maker
Louisa Shaw wife 46
Lucy Shaw dau 23 Chain Maker
Martha A Shaw dau 20 Chain Maker
Samuel W. Shaw son 17 Chain Maker
Louisa W. Shaw dau 14 Scholar
Emily Shaw dau 11Scholar
Jonathan Shaw son 7 Scholar
All born Cradley Worcs.

1901 Census Highfields Road Cradley Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
Louisa Shaw Head (wid) 56
Louisa Shaw dau 24 Chain Maker
Emily Shaw dau 21Chain Maker
Joseph Shaw son 17 Iron Plate Worker
Ann Coley niece 6 born Barnsley Yorks.
All born Cradley Worcs.

David Shaw brother on 1881 Census confirms link to Robert and Ann Shaw ( nee Brookes)

Thanks for all of that Mumbles, you are a star Will go through it all and get back to you, many thanks from Linell.

Hi Mumbles, the connection of Sarah Ann Poole 1837 and John Holden, I am sure is correct, Poole was not a common name. This is actually Mike Leedham's line, links to me later on down the tree.

I do have Wm Shaw 1844 son of Robert Shaw and Anne Brookes, that is certainly a possible Marriage to Louisa. Have you posted the Marriage Look Up Mumbles, if not I will add it?

Hope your wife's Hairdresser didn't charge too much The price you men have to pay for a bit of peace and quiet.

Many thanks from Linell.

1841 Halesowen Road Dudley:-

POOL, Andrew M 50 1791 Worcestershire
POOL, Sarah F 45 1796 Worcestershire
POOL, Esther F 20 1821 Worcestershire
POOL, Sarah F 15 1826 Worcestershire
POOL, Sarah Ann F 4 1837 Worcestershire
BATE, James M 15 1826 Worcestershire
SMITH, John M 20 1821 Worcestershire

I remember when I looked at this before, I did think that Sarah Ann must be the daughter of Esther

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Linell.

1851 Pear Tree St Rowley Regis:-

RUSS, John Head Married M 26 1825 Miner
Parish of Bristol
Gloucestershire
RUSS, Sarah Wife Married F 25 1826 Miner
Parish of Dudley
Worcestershire
POOLE, Sarah Mother-In-Law Widow F 55 1796 Nail Maker
Parish of Dudley
Worcestershire
POOLE, Andrew Nephew M 8 1843 Scholar
Parish of Dudley
Worcestershire

Esther Poole must have Married before 1851?

Marriages Dec 1849 (>99%)
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Bannister Daniel Dudley 18 400
Downing Ann Dudley 18 400
Millard Martha Dudley 18 400
Morgan Mary Ann Dudley 18 400
Parkes Edward Dudley 18 400
Poole Esther Dudley 18 400
Tibbetts Thomas Dudley 18 400
Wall Esther Dudley 18 400
Williams Thomas Dudley 18 400

I suppose this is Esther, but no Sarah Ann there?

1851 Primrose Hill Dudley:-

BANNISTER, Daniel Head Married M 29 1822 Nail Maker
Dudley
Worcestershire VIEW
BANNISTER, Esther Wife Married F 29 1822 Nail Maker
Dudley
Worcestershire VIEW
BANNISTER, Benjamin Father Married M 80 1771 Retired Nail Maker
Dudley
Worcestershire
BANNISTER, Ellen Daughter F 4 1847
Dudley
Worcestershire
BANNISTER, John Son M 2 1849
Dudley
Worcestershire
HOMER, Daniel Visitor Unmarried M 31 1820 Nail Maker
Dudley
Worcestershire

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1849
POOLE Esther BANNISTER Daniel Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/009/406

1851 Primrose Hill Dudley
Daniel Bannister Head 29 Nail Maker
Esther Bannister Wife 29
Benjamin Bannister Father 80 Retired Nail Maker
Ellen Bannister Daur. 4
John Bannister Son 2
Daniel Homer Visitor 31 Nail Maker
All born Dudley

Next Door
Joseph Bannister Head 36 Labourer Born Dudley
Phillis Bannister Wife 38 Born Rowley
Ruth Bannister Daur.14 Born Rowley
Nancy Bannister Daur. 11 Nail Maker Born Rowley
Isaac Bannister Son 8 Born Dudley
Fanny Bannister Daur. 4 Born Dudley
Sylvia Bannister Daur. 1 Born Dudley

This can be archived for the time being, have requested a look up for the Marriage of Esther Poole and Daniel Bannister, see where we go from there. Linell.

Flagging now to archive unless otherwise advised

Look up done by Jan

5 Nov 1849 St Thomas Dudley
Daniel Bannister 28 bach nailer Primrose Hill Benjamin Bannsiter furnace man
Esther Poole 28 spinster Primrose Hill Andrew Poole deceased miner
banns
X both
Wit - John Ross / Sarah Ross X

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