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Counties of Sheffield and York

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:55 pm
by gandalf458x
I have a birth certificate of my grandfather who was born in Ecclesall Bierlow in 1892. It gives EB as being in the Counties of Sheffield and
York. I note that the pre-printed part of BMD certificates has "Count__" allowing for a "y" or "ies" to be added. However, Sheffield isn't and wasn't a county, and a place can't be in more than one county anyway, can it?

Can anyone explain what it means?

Re: Counties of Sheffield and York

PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:17 pm
by gardener
Hi

Is this a certificate that you purchased (and not the one issued in 1892)?

If so, it could be because Ecclesall Bierlow civil parish was in Yorkshire (West Riding) originally, but was abolished and became part of Ecclesall in 1904 (still Yorkshire), and then that was abolished and became part of the civil parish of Sheffield in 1933.

So perhaps the Sheffield bit got stuffed in there to reflect that the place is no longer in the EB sub-district, and now registers as Sheffield.

https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/ ... erlow.html

Re: Counties of Sheffield and York

PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:41 pm
by gandalf458x
Thanks. It is a certified copy, but dated 1946, not one I purchased.

I wondered if it was because Sheffield used to be a county borough and therefore had some of the powers of a county.

Re: Counties of Sheffield and York

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:05 am
by Northern Lass
Moving to misc section

Re: Counties of Sheffield and York

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:43 pm
by Frodo
I lived in Ecclesall when my parents moved to Sheffield in 1967. It is in the south west of Sheffield and a strange mix of student population through to some very upmarket houses. It has a postcode of Sheffield 11 and is in the Hallam district for election purposes - it used to have Nick Clegg as it's MP and his constituency residence was round the corner from my parent's house. As far as I can tell the County of Yorkshire sometimes used to be called the county of York but I've not seen Sheffield added to the title. There were a lot of changes when Local government changed in 1974 and Sheffield became a metropolitan borough and part of South Yorkshire.