'Kindred' used in Irish Marriage Registers

Information on various topics.

Moderators: grangers14, admin, Northern Lass

'Kindred' used in Irish Marriage Registers

Postby Stirrick » Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:20 pm

I've been working my way through the Marriage Register (seemingly pre-1845 format) for Kilmore-Eris Parish in Mayo.

http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0752

Has anyone got any idea what the 'Kindred' column is used for ?

The incumbent has obviously used shorthand when filling in the details, but unfortunately has neglected to record a key to this.

The numbers look too restricted to record anything useful (like relationship between Bride and Groom, or number of siblings) but it would still be interesting to find out.
Stirrick
 
Posts: 12
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:18 pm

Re: 'Kindred' used in Irish Marriage Registers

Postby SRD » Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:26 am

It may be how closely related the couple are, in a small area, within a particular religion, there must have been quite a lot of inter family marriage.
There are charts of degrees of kinship/kindred on the internet which might help.
Irish priests were pretty much conversant with Latin so some of the terms may simply be the Latin translation.
I think the word affinity means that the relationship is 'natural' i.e. illegitimacy.

This site might give you a few more leads.
Currently investigating the Hillmans of Sussex.
User avatar
SRD
 
Posts: 2441
Joined: Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:34 pm
Location: Wiltshire

Re: 'Kindred' used in Irish Marriage Registers

Postby Stirrick » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:18 am

Thanks for replying to my query.

The Kilmore-Eris Registers only go back to 1860, so if the 'Kindred' column did record relations further back in time it would be an invaluable source of information.

As you say, the Parish encompasses a relatively small population - basically the inhabitants of the Belmullet Peninsular - and so it would make sense to monitor how closely related a couple were.

I just wish that the Priest had been a bit more explicit !!!
Stirrick
 
Posts: 12
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:18 pm

Re: 'Kindred' used in Irish Marriage Registers

Postby gardener » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:13 pm

Hi

From a quick look, it generally says something like

3°et 3°

or

3°& 3°affinity


The first will be be the degree of relationship by blood (consanguinity). When affinity is there too it means the degree of relationship but by marriage.

http://www.islandregister.com/consanguinity.html explains it quite well I think.

But the actual entries are a bit ambiguous so I'm not sure how useful it will be :roll:
"The present is the key to the past" - Charles Lyell
User avatar
gardener
 
Posts: 3223
Joined: Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:49 pm
Location: Iceland

Re: 'Kindred' used in Irish Marriage Registers

Postby SRD » Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:04 am

An excellent piece of work, that page should be added to Links.
Currently investigating the Hillmans of Sussex.
User avatar
SRD
 
Posts: 2441
Joined: Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:34 pm
Location: Wiltshire

Re: 'Kindred' used in Irish Marriage Registers

Postby Stirrick » Sat Aug 05, 2017 11:41 am

Thanks very much for that, Gardener.

And I agree, SRD, more people should know about it.
It could be really useful in proving a link, especially where the relationship is first cousins.
Stirrick
 
Posts: 12
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:18 pm

Re: 'Kindred' used in Irish Marriage Registers

Postby gardener » Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:17 pm

Just keep in mind that the link is to Prince Edward Island site, but I think it holds for Catholic records in general.
"The present is the key to the past" - Charles Lyell
User avatar
gardener
 
Posts: 3223
Joined: Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:49 pm
Location: Iceland


Return to Miscellaneous

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests