ARC TBC - Help needed with names,TAYLOR and WILSON

[Taylor]

Hit a very solid brick wall in my family tree.
Heres the info i have so far... if anyone could help id be really grateful!!

Thomas Taylor, Born 1886. Links to Preston, Lancashire. Fathers name John Taylor. No name for Mother...???
He was married to a Lilian Wilkinson (maiden name wareing) . They had a son called, Alan Lloyd Taylor, born Nov 1925.

If anyone can help with Details on Thomas and his parents so i can carry the tree on that would be fab!!

Also hit a brick wall on another part of my tree.

Im struggling to find any info on my gt grandad Williams parents.
Info ive collected so far... William Wilson, born Jun 1901. Lancashire. Fathers name was Henry Wilson. No other details... mothers name was Margaret Ellen Wilson, maiden name seddon. I think they could have married in 1893, this isnt fact though.

William married Edna May Ravenscroft in 1932.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Taylor.

[MarkCDodd]

His only link to Lancashire is the wedding?

It is a fairly common combination, Thomas Taylor with father John.

Is birth year of 1886 derived from the marriage cert?

What was Thomas' profession? His father's professions?

Was his father still alive when he wed?

Was he a batchelor when he wed?

We can help you but we need a few more clues than what you have provided.

A small sample of the MANY MANY possible baptisms...

Name: Thomas Taylor
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 1886
Baptism/Christening Place: FARRINGTON, LANCASHIRE, ENGLAND
Birth Date: 1886
Birthplace: Farrington, Lancashire, Eng
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Taylor
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Rebecca
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C16262-1
System Origin: England-VR
Source Film Number: 1471151
Reference Number: - 2:398J254

Name: Thomas Taylor
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 15 Sep 1885
Baptism/Christening Place: Hull, York, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Taylor
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04101-0
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1895001
Reference Number: Item 6

Name: Thomas Taylor
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 02 Dec 1885
Baptism/Christening Place: Primitive Methodist Chapel, Crook, Durham, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Taylor
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Ann
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02493-2
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 2107288
Reference Number: items 1-3 p 150

Name: Thomas Taylor
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 08 Nov 1885
Baptism/Christening Place: Marthall, Cheshire, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Taylor
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Emily
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00075-2
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 886623
Reference Number: p15 cn484

Name: Thomas Taylor
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 16 Nov 1884
Baptism/Christening Place: St. Marys, Reading, Berkshire, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Taylor
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Rebecca Taylor
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01409-9
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1040619
Reference Number: item 2 p 134

Name: Thomas Taylor
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 09 Nov 1884
Baptism/Christening Place: St. Andrew, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Taylor
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Anna
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I01666-3
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 2148073
Reference Number: yr 1884-1885 p 26

[MarkCDodd]

Grandad Wilson and family in 1911

1911 census transcription details for: Preston Road Coppull Moor Chorley
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN25223 RG78PN1443 RD475 SD4 ED24 SN360

Reg. District: Chorley Sub District: Chorley
Parish: Coppull Enum. District: 24
Address: Preston Road Coppull Moor Chorley
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
WILSON, Henry Head Married M 49 1862 Wheelwright Coppull Lanc
WILSON, Margaret Ellen Wife Married 18 years F 42 1869 Leigh Lancashire
WILSON, George Son Single M 17 1894 Collier Drawer Below Ground Coppull Lancashire
WILSON, Henry Son M 12 1899 School Coppull Lancashire
WILSON, William Son M 9 1902 Coppull Lancashire
WILSON, Jane Ellen Daughter F 7 1904 Coppull Lancashire
WILSON, Betsy Daughter F 5 1906 Coppull Lancashire
WILSON, John Son M 2 1909 Coppull Lancashire

This confirms they married in 1893 so your Grandma's maiden name could be Seddon.

She says she was born abt 1869 in Leigh, Lancashire.

That would mae this her likely birth record but there are four possible matches between 1867 and 1870 in Lancashire.

Name: SEDDON, Margaret Ellen
Registration District: Leigh
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1870
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: 8C
Page No: 204

Their marraige:

Groom's Name: Henry Wilson
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Margaret Ellen Saddon
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 23 Apr 1893
Marriage Place: Coppull, Lancashire, England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02919-3
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1849656
Reference Number: 894

[Taylor]

Hi, Thankyou for your reply.
I dont have much info on Thomas, my grandad was the only one with any info and he sadly passed away Dec last year.
The only other info i do have is, that Thomas died in 1946, In preston. He served in two world wars... at sea too, so could have been in the marines of some sort. He worked with radios and wireless. This is info ive collected is from what my nana can remember and an old newspaper cutting. If i can post the cutting, maybe you could get more info from it then i can.....
Thomas's fathers profession was 'farmer', and his name was taken from Thomas and Lilians marriage certificate.
Thomas is buried, at St James church, Leyland....along with Lilian and Alan.

Thats all i have,hope something here might be able to help.

The wilson info looks right, i know henry was wheelright of copull moor.... so spot on there. Il try and narrow Margarets birth records down to find the right one... Thankyou again this info should be a big help!

Taylor.

[MarkCDodd]

So far I have found 59 John Taylor who happen to be farmers in Lancashire in 1881......

That drops to 48 by 1891.....

P.S. Do you have any idea how much an original Logie Baird TV would be worth to a collector!!!!!!!

There is no suitable death for a Thomas Taylor in Preston in 1946.

However, he lived in Leyland and the registration district would be Chorley.

That would mean his likely death entry is this...

Name: Thomas Taylor
Birth Date: abt 1886
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1946
Age at Death: 60
Registration district: Chorley
Registration County: Lancashire
Volume: 10c
Page: 12

Do you have his death cert?

[MarkCDodd]

Good candidate for his family in 1891.

1891 census transcription details for: Gravel Lane, North Meols, Banks
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 3034 Folio: 26 Page: 12

Reg. District: Ormskirk Sub District: North Meols
Parish: North Meols Enum. District: 2
Ecclesiastical District: St Stephens in the Banks City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Gravel Lane, North Meols, Banks
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
TAYLOR, John Head Married M 31 1860 Farmer Banks
TAYLOR, Mary Wife Married F 31 1860 Banks
TAYLOR, Jane Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar Banks
TAYLOR, Henry Son M 6 1885 Scholar Banks
TAYLOR, Thomas Son M 5 1886 Banks
TAYLOR, Mary Daughter F 3 1888 Banks
TAYLOR, William Son M 2 1889 Banks

[MarkCDodd]

Another excellent candidate as it is in Chorley.

1891 census transcription details for: Mill Farm, Windy Harbour Lane, Wheelton
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 3419 Folio: 79 Page: 15

Reg. District: Chorley Sub District: Brindle
Parish: Wheelton Enum. District: 6
Ecclesiastical District: Heapey City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Mill Farm, Windy Harbour Lane, Wheelton
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation ,Disability Where Born
TAYLOR, John Head Married M 29 1862 Farmer Walton Le Dale Lancashire
TAYLOR, Rebecca Wife Married F 27 1864 Longton Lancashire
TAYLOR, Nancy Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar Heapey Lancashire
TAYLOR, Minnetta E Daughter F 6 1885 Scholar Wheelton Lancashire
TAYLOR, Thomas Son M 4 1887 Longton Lancashire
TAYLOR, Helena Daughter F 1 1890 Wheelton Lancashire
HIGHAM, Roger Servant Single M 22 1869 Farm Servant Penwortham Lancashire

[MarkCDodd]

There are no other John Taylor farmers with a son called Thoimas in Lancashire so it appears one of those two are his family.

One uses very common names whilst the other has some rarer ones.

Any of the rare names ring a bell such a Rebecca, Minnetta, Helena?

[Taylor]

Both of those look promising.... especially the 1st one.... Thomas's date of birth is the same ,1886 on that one. Will try searching both families, see if i can match them up with my thomas...

None of the rare names ring a bell to be honest.... ive done nothing but trawl through name after name the last few days whilst doing this tree, so my minds one big jumble of names at the mo!!lol

Taylor.

[Taylor]

ps a logie baird tv.....ALOT!! My grandad actually went to logie with his ideas and inventions... then he fell ill....logie took his ideas and passed them off as his own.... That part they forgot to document !! :l
Whether the tv is still about from logie i dont know.... will have to ask my nana.... could she have a small fortune sitting on a shelf in the back room...??? maybe!! LOL

Taylor.

[BC Wench]

Hello Taylor,

You should try this absolutely brilliant Lancashire Online Parish Clerks web site. When the home page comes up, on the left hand side click on "search" Next page you can click on the whole county. It's obviously a work in progress. I've found lots of my Lancashire rellies on there and information on gravestones.

I've just had a quick look and there's info on your William Wilson. Have fun.

Barb

[Taylor]

Hi Barb.... brilliant thankyou!! Ive come across this page in my google searches, but had no idea there was a 'search' section...Have found Henry Wilson...and fathers name, finally... ! Hopefully this will come in useful with the other names im looking for!! Thankyou again

Taylor.

[peterd]

Thomas's fathers profession was 'farmer', and his name was taken from Thomas and Lilians marriage certificate.
Thomas is buried, at St James church, Leyland....along with Lilian and Alan.

Thats all i have,hope something here might be able to help.

who were the witnesses on the marriage cert and what was the address ?

[BC Wench]

Oops! I forgot to give the web address of the Lancashire Online Parish Clerks for anyone else who is interested in their Lancashire rellies

www.lan-opc.org.uk

So glad that you've found your ancestors Taylor. I'm sure you'll be able to find many more ancestors.

[BC Wench]

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