ARC TBC - Heres a conundrum for you a

[kdp]

Bear with me Its a confusing one

These are my relatives:
1861 England Census
about Sarah Parish Name: Sarah Parish
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John Parish
Gender: Female
Where born: Brockmoor, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Tipton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England


Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Tipton
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 78
Household Members: Name Age
John Parish 38 Labourer in Colliery
Sarah Parish 32
Maria Parish 12
Harriet Parish 8
James T Parish 6
Priscilla E Parish 4
Jacob Parish 11 MO

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2045; Folio: 68; Page: 14; GSU roll: 542908.

John Parish married Sarah Hill (fathers name Jacob Hill) in Kingswinford 25th Sept 1848. Both from Brockmoor

Then I come across this :
1861 England Census
about George Bentley Name: George Bentley
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah Bentley
Gender: Male
Where born: Bridgnorth, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Dudley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Edmund
Town: Dudley
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England


Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Dudley
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
George Bentley 31
Sarah Bentley 14
Thomas Parish 14
William Hill 8
Hannah Parish 19
Emma Horton 13

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2059; Folio: 5; Page: 5; GSU roll: 542911.

On freecen:

1861 Census
6 Records found


Piece: RG9/2059 Place: Dudley WOR -Staffordshire Enumeration District: 28
Civil Parish: Dudley Ecclesiastical Parish: St Edmunds
Folio: 5 Page: 5 Schedule: 22
Address: -



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
BENTLEY George Head M M 31 Publican & Farmer Shropshire - Bridgnorth
BENTLEY Sarah Wife M F 41 Worcestershire - Dudley
PARISH Thomas Stpson U M 14 Scholar Worcestershire - Dudley
HILL William Grnson U M 8 Scholar Worcestershire - Dudley
PARISH Hannah Servnt U F 19 Domestic Servant Staffordshire - Kingswinford
HORTON Emma Servnt U F 13 Domestic Servant Worcestershire - Redditch




So you can see why I'm confused.com!!


Marriages Mar 1852 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

**Bentley George Dudley 6c 100
Jones Eliza Dudley 6c 100
**Parish Sarah Dudley 6c 100
Seagar John Dudley 6c 100


So Just a coincidence?? or my relatives?? Any evidence??

Thanks for looking x

[snoopysue]

Have you looked for John Parish's death?

[kdp]

But i have him and Sarah together through to 1901? and i'm 99.9% sure I have the correct couple as in 1851, Johns mother is living with them. I beleive he died in 1907, tho don't have cert.
They also named 2 children (1 died) Jacob Hill Parish
thanks

[Northern Lass]

going to move this to BC general as it is more of an enquiry

[kdp]

thanks NL. I'm never sure which board s the right one lol

[Northern Lass]

thanks NL. I'm never sure which board s the right one lol

If you want a Bapt Marriage or burial then post in the Look up requests
or
If you want a birth or death finding post in look up requests

if you want a census a particular one post in look up requests

if your post is more of a general query post in here if BC area
if outside BC post in General discussion

simples

[kdp]

easy for you

[Antie Em]

Is this the marriage in 1852

**Bentley George Dudley 6c 100
Jones Eliza Dudley 6c 100
**Parish Sarah Dudley 6c 100
Seagar John Dudley 6c 100

PARISH Sarah BENTLEY George Sedgley, All Saints Dudley Register Office 216/007/159

[gardener]

To be honest I'm not sure what the question is, never mind the answer!

1861 Census
RG9/2059 Place: Dudley WOR -Staffordshire Enumeration District: 28
Civil Parish: Dudley Ecclesiastical Parish: St Edmunds
Folio: 5 Page: 5 Schedule: 22

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
BENTLEY George Head M M 31 Publican & Farmer Shropshire - Bridgnorth
BENTLEY Sarah Wife M F 41 Worcestershire - Dudley
PARISH Thomas Stpson U M 14 Scholar Worcestershire - Dudley
HILL William Grnson U M 8 Scholar Worcestershire - Dudley
PARISH Hannah Servnt U F 19 Domestic Servant Staffordshire - Kingswinford
HORTON Emma Servnt U F 13 Domestic Servant Worcestershire - Redditch

1851
Hall Street, Dudley
Sarah Parrish head wid 36 butcher
Hannah Hill dau 19
William Hill son 13
George Parish son 12
Charles Parish son 8
Thomas parish son 5
all born Dudley

1841
Birmingham St, Dudley
John Hill 25 grocer
Sarah ditto 25
Hannah ditto 7
William ditto 2
all born in parish

Mmm, so if John Hill died after 1841 and Sarah married a Parrish (who died before 1851) then it looks as though George Parish at least was the son of her 2nd husband. And then she married George Bentley. How complicated! Then again, that 1841 might not be correct.

[gardener]

1841
Hall? St, Dudley
Chas Parish 20 butcher
Jane ditto 20
Sarah ditto 3
George ditto 2
all born in county

That looks possible since he is a butcher

Charles Parish m Sarah Hill 11 Jun 1846 St Thos Dudley (IGI)

[gardener]

The Hannah parish aged 19 who is a servant in the 1861 household could be a relative and there is this lot

1841
Kingswinford
George Parish 25 butcher
Ann Maria diito 25
Emma ditto 3
Charles ditto 1
Ann Jones 15 FS

1851
Kingswinford
Ann Maria Parish head mar 35 proprieor of house
Emma Parish dau 13
Charles ditto son 11
Hannah ditto dau 9
Selena ditto dau 6
Mary Jane ditto dau 4

Just wondered if this George and the Charles Parish in the previous post were related since they are both butchers.

[kdp]

lol... yes I'm confused.

Try and simplify it.

I have a Sarah Hill in my tree whom married a John Parish...
John Parish married Sarah Hill (fathers name Jacob Hill) in Kingswinford 25th Sept 1848. Both from Brockmoor

My John bapt 1827 Brierley Hill. Parents James and Elizabeth Parish

Sarah and John I can trace through on the census' from 1851 to 1901. I beleive that John dies in 1907. I'm as sure as can be this is correct as they have John's mother with them in 51, and then the children connect through the census'. They also had children called Jacob Hill Parish (note sarahs fathers name).
But then i by chance came across this Sarah married to George, with Parish and Hill children with her in 1861.

I cant connect them to my family...
So my question is can any of you?? Or are the Parish and Hill names Just a coincidence and they are 2 different families??

[kdp]

Is this the marriage in 1852

**Bentley George Dudley 6c 100
Jones Eliza Dudley 6c 100
**Parish Sarah Dudley 6c 100
Seagar John Dudley 6c 100

PARISH Sarah BENTLEY George Sedgley, All Saints Dudley Register Office 216/007/159

Yes i think so, at least thats the one i posted at top
thanks

[kdp]

Doh... probably should've put this on earlier...

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ish-Family


link to John and Sarah and family

Thanks for looking x

[Northern Lass]

moved to Brickwalls