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ARC TBC Which Ann is correct?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:53 am
by Katykat
In the Roberts line of my family, I’m finding it really difficult to pin down the correct information. It’s made all the more difficult that many of the male family members were called David Roberts. At present I have confirmed that David Roberts, born Pembrey 1836 & died in Cadoxton 1923 is correct. On the 1841 census his parents are listed as David Robert ( minus the S but I think it was common then for surnames to change slightly) and Ann. By 1851, Ann must have died because she’s not on the census. Davis senior was born in Pembrey circa 1801 and Ann circa 1807 ( according to the census) I cant find any marriage record so I can’t determine Ann’s maiden name. On searching there are possibly 5 or 6 Ann’s who married a David Robert or Roberts in Pembrey between 1825-1834 when their first child Elizabeth was born. How can I find out which Ann David married and if possible his fathers name ( I’ll bet it’s David !!!)

Re: Which Ann is correct?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:53 pm
by BC Wench
Father's names weren't entered on marriages before Civil Registration which began on 1 July 1837.

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This is the only marriage I can see taking place in Pembrey of David Robert or Roberts & Ann.

Marriage: 17 February 1826 Parish of Pembrey, Carmarthenshire
David Robert of this Parish and
Ann Hugh of this Parish
Wit: Elizabeth Evans, Richard Williams
By Banns
Groom & Bride signed with mark X

1841 Census: Pool, Pembrey, Llanelly, Carmarthenshire & Pembrokeshire
David Robert, 35, Collier
Ann Robert, 35
Margaret Robert, 13
Elizabeth Robert, 7
David Robert, 4
John Robert, 1

Baptism: 29 June 1834 Jerusalem Chapel (Independent), Pembrey, Carmarthenshire
Betsy, born Pembrey 3 March 1834, Parents: David Robert & Ann Robert formerly Anne Hugh, Abode: Pool, Father's occ: Collier

From GRO Index
ROBERT, JOHN - Mother's Maiden Name: HUGH
GRO Reference: 1839 D Quarter in LLANELLY Volume 26 Page 522

1851 Census: Penllech, Pembrey, Llanelly, Carmarthenshire & Pembrokeshire
David Robert, Head.Wid, 51, Collier
Elizabeth Robert, Dau.UM, 17
David Robert, Son, 14, Collier
John Robert, Son, 11
Henry Robert, Son, 6
(All born Pembrey)

1861 Census: Pembrey, Llanelly, Carmarthenshire & Pembrokeshire
David Robert, Head.Wid, 60, Coal Miner
Henry Robert, Son, 17, Coal Trammer
Jane Badger, Servant, Servant.Wid, 52, Servant
(All born Pembrey)

1871 Census: Pen Llech, Pembrey, Llanelly, Carmarthenshire & Pembrokeshire
Henry Roberts, Head.Mar, 26, Coal Miner
Hannah Roberts, Wife, 20
David Roberts, Son, 1mth
David Roberts, Lodger.Wid, 72 (Father of Henry)
Margaret Williams, Servant, 14, General Servant
(All born Pembrey)

Henry, Hannah & children are on the 1881, 1891, 1901, 1911 censuses living in Pembrey.

Re: Which Ann is correct?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:49 pm
by Katykat
Once again, Thank you very much BC. I was thrown off course by the fact that I had missed the first child, Margaret, born in 1828. I’ve dug out an old email from a distant relative & discovered the existence of Margaret so this narrows the search a lot and I think you have found the correct match. The John b 1839 is correct so this confirms Ann’s maiden name. I need to use the GRO index more.

Re: Which Ann is correct?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2022 11:05 am
by BC Wench
Is this still a Brickwall, or have you solved it?

Unless otherwise advised this will be moved to the Brickwalls Archived section
within 24 hours

Re: ARC TBC Which Ann is correct?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:48 am
by Katykat
Hello. Yes, it’s solved, thanks to you. It can be moved now.
Happy new year.
Kathryn