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ARC TBC Brick Wall Griffiths - Wolverhampton

PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:44 pm
by geoff3d
Brick wall before 1911, father Harry Wife and siblings
1911
GRIFFITHS, JOHN WILLIAM HEAD MARRIED M 34 LABOURER AT PAPER MILL AND ENGINEER FITTER WALSALL ST WOLVERHAMPTON STAFFS
GRIFFITHS, SUSAN [thompson] WIFE MARRIED 4 F 32 NEWTOWN STAFFORD
GRIFFITHS, ELSIE MAY DAUGHTER SINGLE F 2 HAUNGHWOOD RD STOCKINGFORD NUNEATON TAMWORTH STAFFS
GRIFFITHS, GLADYS EVELYN DAUGHTER SINGLE F 1 1 SPRING GARDEN NUNEATON TAMWORTH STAFFS

marriage July 1907 age 30 furnaceman 117 dartmouth Street Wolverhampton, father Harry Griffiths Puddler
All saints church
Elsie May Griffiths was born 1909 in Nuneaton and died 1967 in Wolverhampton. She married Arnold Landucci Oct 1933. He was born Jun 1907 and died 25 Sep 2011 in Wolverhampton, son of Alexander Landucci and Annie Lavinia Walker.
Children of Elsie May Griffiths and Arnold Landucci:
i. 2. Arnold W Landucci was born Jun 1934 in Wolverhampton and died 25 Sep 2011 in Tettenhall Wolverhampton
ii. 3. June Winifred Landucci was born Jun 1943 in Wolverhampton

Re: Brick Wall Griffiths - Wolverhampton

PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:19 pm
by geoff3d
Marriage 1907 of John and Susan
Witnesses William and Nellie SWINTON, sister and brother or husband and wife

Re: Brick Wall Griffiths - Wolverhampton

PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:52 pm
by Jimmy
GRIFFITHS, JOHN WILLIAM mothers maiden name DULEY.
GRO Reference: 1877 D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 62.

GRIFFITHS, JOHN WILLIAM mothers maiden name BIRCH.
GRO Reference: 1878 D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 618.

Re: Brick Wall Griffiths - Wolverhampton

PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:30 pm
by geoff3d
Thank`s Jimmy
Need father as Harry ref marriage certif, both these do not have, bought both... :(
Geoff

Re: Brick Wall Griffiths - Wolverhampton

PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:16 pm
by Jimmy
I can't see any Harry Griffiths that fits,

Wolverhampton St Matthew.
Marriage date 11 Oct 1874.
Henry GRIFFITHS. 24. Bachelor Puddler. Chapel Street.
Martha RICH. 21. Spinster. Chapel Street.
Witness Richard TENNANT, and Betsy GRIFFITHS.
Notes Banns; Grooms father deceased; Brides father deceased; Recorded by John E GLADSTONE.
Transcribed by Barb Jones.
Credit Barb Jones.
File line number 1458.

Age is slightly out compaired to 1911 census
GRIFFITHS, JOHN mother RICH.
GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 562.

1891.
William L Davis 39. labourer at brick yard.
Martha Davis 40.
John Griffiths 17. stepson. labourer at brick yard.
Elizabeth Griffiths 12. Stepdaughter
William J Davis 8.

All born Wolverhampton.

Re: Brick Wall Griffiths - Wolverhampton

PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:58 pm
by Jimmy
Martha Griffiths married William Davies in 1886.

death,
GRIFFITHS, HENRY age 37.
GRO Reference: 1885 D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 395.

Re: Brick Wall Griffiths - Wolverhampton

PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:05 pm
by Jimmy
1881. Gas Yard Union Mill St, Wolverhampton.
Sarah Higgins 65. widow.
John Rich 31. Son.
Martha Griffiths 29. dau. married.
John Griffiths 6. son.
Elizabeth Griffiths 2. dau.
Martha Collings 61. boarder.

Re: Brick Wall Griffiths - Wolverhampton

PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:10 pm
by geoff3d
Thank`s for this it is very interesting
GRIFFITHS Elizabeth dau.of Henry & Martha 22 Apr 1879 Moseley Village Pudler R.H.Snape Heath Town
indicates john as 4 years older 1875

Having looked at the marriage certificate and studied it there is a close possibility of the Fathers name as it is handwritten could be Henry not Harry ? further thought and proof needed before more progress.
geoff

Re: Brick Wall Griffiths - Wolverhampton

PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:43 pm
by Jimmy
Harry is often used as a nickname for Henry.

Re: Brick Wall Griffiths - Wolverhampton

PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:02 pm
by geoff3d
Was he in Tamworth with relatives earlier
Joined address John William Griffiths - Regimental Number 275217217 - Royal Artillery
lived at 14 Lower Gungate Tamworth - had served in Royal Artillery -
attested 13/8/1914 - discharged 21/9/1916
intended address 14 lower Gungate Tamworth crossed out on this page -
83 Walsall Street Wolverhampton 19/11/1921 - wife Susan
1901 Tamworth (could be relatives)
53 13 GRIFFITHS William J. 95 Gungate Tamworth
53 13 GRIFFITHS Jeanie 95 Gungate
53 13 GRIFFITHS Leonard J. 95 Gungate
53 13 GRIFFITHS Millicent J. 95 Gungate
53 13 GRIFFITHS Joshua 96 Gungate
53 13 GRIFFITHS Sarah 96 Gungate
53 13 GRIFFITHS Edwin 96 Gungate
53 13 GRIFFITHS Horace M. 96 Gungate

Re: Brick Wall Griffiths - Wolverhampton

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:14 pm
by Jimmy
1901. Gun Gate, Tamworth.
Joshua Griffith 64. Head. blacksmith. Dudley.
Sarah Griffith 62. Birmingham.
Edwin L Griffith 35. Hockley, Tamworth.
Horace M Griffith 18. Hockley, Tamworth.

next door,
William R J Griffith 40. Head. machanical engineer. Springfield, Rowley, Worcs.
Jeanie Griffith 38. Scotland.
Leonard J Griffith 5. Tamworth.
Millicent Griffith 2. Tamworth.

Re: Brick Wall Griffiths - Wolverhampton

PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:25 pm
by geoff3d
Looking for Husband and further census info family etc :!: re Sarah

1881. Gas Yard Union Mill St, Wolverhampton.
Sarah Higgins 65. widow.
Thanks also was Martha Collings 61. boarder. related :wink:

Re: Brick Wall Griffiths - Wolverhampton

PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:49 pm
by geoff3d
Looking at parents and census
1891.
William L Davis 39. labourer at brick yard.
Martha Davis 40.
John Griffiths 17. stepson. labourer at brick yard.
Elizabeth Griffiths 12. Stepdaughter
William J Davis 8.
All born Wolverhampton.
Credit Jimmy.
Geoff 8)

Re: Brick Wall Griffiths - Wolverhampton

PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:56 pm
by geoff3d
John Rich 1851
Name John Rich Wolverhampton
Residence Note Monmore Green
Occupation Pudlers Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1851
Thomas Rich Head M 34 Dudley, Worcestershire
Sarah Rich Wife F 30 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
John Rich Son M 0 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
Sarah Mafit Servant F 10 Wolverhampton, Staffordsh

Re: Brick Wall Griffiths - Wolverhampton

PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:29 am
by geoff3d
Sarah Ann Griffiths Daughter Single Female 4 1877 census 1881
(Sarah an illegitimate child 2 Jun 1776 Wednesfield )
GRIFFITHS, SARAH ANN JONES
GRO Reference: 1876 S Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 650

GRIFFITHS, SARAH ANN RICH (mother of john william griffiths born 1877?)
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 622

Who`s daughter was Sarah Ann,(sister to John William Griffiths)?
1881
Moseley V High Street, Wednesfield, Wolverhampton,
Staffordshire, England
Mary Jones Head Widow Female 55 1826 No Occupation Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
William Davis Son In Law Married Male 30 1851 Cooper Oakengates, Shropshire, England
Rachel Jones Daughter Single Female 21 1860 ? Painter (Whitesmith) Staffordshire, England
Catherine Jones Daughter Single Female 18 1863 None Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Rosehannah Jones Daughter Single Female 17 1864 Tacker Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Enoch Jones Son Single Male 12 1869 None Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Sarah Ann Griffiths Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Baby