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Trying to go back a generation on my Bakers Old Hill. Children of Joseph Baker and Susannah Siviter. Found a Joseph And Ann Halesowen Road Gun Barrell welder. 1861, 71, 81 Marriage Ann Parkes and Joseph St Thomas Dudley 1836 wit Elizabeth Baker.

Found William Baker 1851 apprentice shoemaker born Dudley wood lodger Halesowen road. and 1861 married shoe maker lodger with John and Eliz Willetts Congreaves Road. might be long shots.

Joseph was christened 5th July 1813 St Giles parents Joseph and Eliz Baker Old Hill Gunsmith. All other siblings christened St Giles except William 1833. Can't find William. Found Joseph1851 c in Old Hill wife Ann . Bakers cottages. Kids Henry Sarah Samuel Ann E. Lots of Shaw kids christened St Giles. 1813 onwards. Gun smith connection also Tibbetts and Parsons. Closely knit community it seems. I'm Still looking for Joseph's wife.

Seems there was another son Peter born 1827 christened St Giles 15th July !827 abode Dudley wood. I have a death St Thomas from free dir. !837 died Nov 28 buried 3rd Dec 1337 Age 10 years Abode Netherton parents Joseph and Elizabeth Baker. Still can't find christening for William 1833.

Found a baptism St Thomas 8th Sept 1844 for a William parents fit father labourer abode Derby end. His sister Phebe has her abode down as Derby end in her marriage of 1842. May be the family moved from Dudley wood to Derby end. May be William's was a late baptism.

Is this the Joseph you were looking at? Seems his father was Samuel.
1851. Old Hill. Rowley Regis.
Joseph Baker, head, 37, Gun Barrel Welder,
Ann, wife, 34,
Hemry, son, 14,
Sarah, daur, 11,
Samuel, son, 7,
Ann E, daur, 7 months
Samuel Baker, father, W, 74, Retired Gun Barrel Welder,
All born Rowley Regis.

1841. Hayseech, Rowley Regis.
Joseph Baker, 25, Nail Maker,
Ann, 25,
Henery, 5,
Sarah, 1,
All born in County

1851. Old Hill. Rowley Regis.
Joseph Baker, head, 37, Gun Barrel Welder,
Ann, wife, 34,
Hemry, son, 14,
Sarah, daur, 11,
Samuel, son, 7,
Ann E, daur, 7 months
Samuel Baker, father, W, 74, Retired Gun Barrel Welder,
All born Rowley Regis.

1861. Old Hill, Rowley Regis.
Joseph Baker, head, 47, Gun Barrel Welder, Rowley Regis
Ann, wife, 44, Rowley Regis
Samuel, Son, 17, Nail Maker, Halesowen
Joseph, son, 8, Rowley Regis
Ann E. daur, 4, Smethwick

1871, Halesowen Road, Rowley Regis.
Joseph Baker, head, 58, Gun Barrel Maker,
Ann, wife, 55, Nail Maker
Joseph, son, 18, House Painter,
Ann Elizabeth, daur, 13, Hasbury
Henry, son, 34, Tailors Draper,
All others born Rowley Regis

1881. Halesowen Road, Rowley Regis.
Joseph Baker, head, 68, Gun Barrel Welder
Ann, wife, 64,
Joseph, son, 28, House Labourer,
Elizabeth, daur, 23, Nurse,
All born Rowley Regis

That's a shame. Think I have found Samuel on BCC born1790 daughter Elizabeth married Thomas Hancox 1815. Wit to her wed James Baker and Rosannah Payne. On BCC born 1801 . I think James is a brother to Joseph (father Samue1790l) All gunsmiths. Samuels wife Sarah? All Old Hill.


If you go into James Baker 1801 on BCC you will see there is a ? by Samuel Baker as father. Just finished my sub for Anc. I wonder if some one could check on original census in case wrongly transcribed. Just to make doubly sure Samuel is Joseph's father. Not some other relative I know too many Bakers. Slowly plodding on.

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Marriage. Freereg
14th May 1813. St John the Baptists, Halesowen
Samuel Baker, W, Rowley Regis
Sarah Siviter,W, Rowley Regis
Witnesses, John Johnson, Elizabeth Richards

Free reg I have a marriage 30th May1841
Samuel Smith Forge man father Benjamin Smith Forge man from Old Hill and Mary Baker father Samuel Baker Gun Barrel Maker wit James Bloomer and Eliz Hancox. from Old Hill. I think Mary Baker is another sibling. A James and Mary Smith are on the 1841 census living with Samuel and Sarah. Of age on marriage but then most of the birth dates are quess work on 1841 census.

Another daughter of Samuel - Ruth Baker married Joseph Hancox Sedgley 06/02/37. wit John Newton Luke Cox. Joseph on BCC father Benjamin mother Margaret free reg Dudley St Thomas bap. 9th Oct 1814 Tracemaker.


Other kids John 23/12/1804 Benjamin 14/6/1807.

Still not found any family for my Joseph whose father is Joseph.1813 but this lot are interesting .Old Hill and Gunsmith connection, convinced they are related.

Is this completed if not what more do you need

Have lost my train of thought on this one, but will come back to it. Taking a break from my ancestors for now.

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