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Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Postby Jimmy » Wed May 03, 2017 8:06 am

1851. Old Hill, Rowley Regis.
Enoch Parkes 56. Widow.
Ann Parkes 38. ????? Inmate. Unmarried.
Hannah Parkes 17. Dau of Annm. Unmarried
William Jehtha 60. lodger. Unmarried. Hampshire.

Others born Rowley Regis.

Looks like Parkes on image.
1841. Old Hill.
Enock Parker 45. Nailer.
Mary Parker 30.
Ann Parker 30.
Hannah Parker 8.
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Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Postby Jimmy » Wed May 03, 2017 8:55 am

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Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Postby Mabel » Wed May 03, 2017 9:22 am

I couldn't find any Ann Rose 1845 or 1846 Rowley Regis. There are some unnamed births . I always thought this meant the child was born dead. Were children registered unnamed then named later if they were living would be interested to know.
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Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Postby BC Wench » Wed May 03, 2017 2:38 pm

A child can be registered unnamed and named later by going back to the Register Office with name being entered in the last Column 10* on a birth certificate.

My 2xgt. grandfather's birth certificate has no first name on it and nothing entered in Column 10*. I had a copy of this birth certificate from the local Register Office, so the parents hadn't gone back to have his name entered on the certificate held by the Register Office, BUT, was it entered on the certificate which the parents had? I will never know.
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Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Postby Northern Lass » Thu May 04, 2017 7:27 am

Jimmy wrote:It looks like he could be the son of Hannah, Old Hill is part of Rowley Regis

1861. Rowley Regis.
Ann Parkes 44. Unmarried.
Hannah Parkes 27. Unmarried.
Thomas Parkes 5. Grand son.

PARKES, THOMAS PARKES.
GRO Reference: 1856 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 13.



so this Hannah may be g.dau of Enoch parkes here
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Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Postby Northern Lass » Thu May 04, 2017 7:53 am

Something doesnt gel here..

So if Thomas Parkes age 5 here..

1861. Rowley Regis.
Ann Parkes 44. Unmarried.
Hannah Parkes 27. Unmarried.
Thomas Parkes 5. Grand son.

and 14 here...
1871 Census Cornbow Glazers Yard Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
John Hackett Head 27 Carter born Halesowen Worcs.
Ann Hackett wife 26 Nail Maker
Thomas Parkes lodger 14 Salesman ?
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.

and here
1881 Census Rumbow Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
John Hackett Head (wid) 40 Carter born Halesowen Worcs.
Jane Pickford Boarder (wid) 43 Housekeeper born Bridgnorth Salop.
Thomas Parkes boarder 23 Boatman born Hill Worcs.
Sarah Ann Parkes boarder 24 Nailer born Old Hill Staffs.
William Parkes boarder 6 Scholar
Sarah Jane Parkes boarder 3
Martha Parkes boarder 1
Maria Pickford boarder 23 Nailer born Old Hill Staffs.
John Pickford boarder 2 born Halesowen Worcs.
Rest born Hasbury Worcs.

is the same one...
then ..
how does Ann Parkes b 1845 link to this Enoch Parkes ??
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1851. Old Hill, Rowley Regis.
Enoch Parkes 56. Widow.
Ann Parkes 38. ????? Inmate. Unmarried.
Hannah Parkes 17. Dau of Annm. Unmarried
William Jehtha 60. lodger. Unmarried. Hampshire.
Others born Rowley Regis.
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Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Postby Jimmy » Thu May 04, 2017 8:02 am

I don't think Ann 1845 links to Enoch.
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Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Postby Northern Lass » Thu May 04, 2017 8:32 am

Jimmy wrote:I don't think Ann 1845 links to Enoch.


so how come that thomas parkes is in household of ann parkes enochs dau (ann b 1817 with her dau Hannah b 1833)?
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Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Postby Jimmy » Thu May 04, 2017 8:40 am

I think Thomas is son of HANNAH, Ann's daughter.
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Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Postby Jimmy » Thu May 04, 2017 9:09 am

This looks like Ann,
1851. Old Hill.
Lucy Parkes 70. Widow. Nailmaker.
Henry Parkes 31. Son. Widow. Brickmaker.
Hannah Parkes 29. Dau. Unmaarried. Nailmaker.
Abel Parkes 9. Son of Hannah.
Ann Parkes 5. Dau of Hannah.
Caroline Parkes 9. Dau of Henry.

All born Halesowen.

I can't see them in 1841.
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Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Postby Jimmy » Thu May 04, 2017 9:37 am

Found them, Parkes on image,
1841. Long Lane, Hales Owen.
Lucy Pares 50. Nailer.
Hannah Pares 20.
Joseph Pares 1 Mo.
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Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Postby Jimmy » Thu May 04, 2017 10:01 am

Henry Parkes on BCC with mother Lucy added by FarSide updated by Jo 24/9/2012.

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=402562

marriage needs updating,

Ancestry,
Henry Parkes. Full age. Bathelor. Boatman. father Joseph Parkes, Boatman.
Mary Josephs. Full age. Spinster. Father Richard Josephs. Boaman.
Both made their marks.

Witnesses,
Richard Josephs and Elizabeth Andrews.

Marriage Date: 8 Mar 1841.
Marriage Place: Birmingham, St Martin, Warwickshire, England.
Parish as it Appears: Birmingham, St Martin.
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Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Postby Jimmy » Thu May 04, 2017 10:11 am

Ann Parkes 1846 dau of Hannah on BCC,,

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Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Postby Northern Lass » Fri May 05, 2017 6:08 am

Ok got that Hannah Parkes dau of Lucy Parkes has dau Ann parkes b 1845
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=402570

so are we saying the Hannah Parkes here is a diff one..if so why is Thomas Parkes who is with the Hannah and Ann above with the Ann Rose below too in other census.

1851 - Siviters Lane, Rowley Regis
Abraham Parkes Head 52 Labourer b. Rowley Regis
Ann Parkes Wife 50 Labourer’s Wife b. Rowley Regis
James Parkes Son 19 Nailor b. Rowley Regis
Hannah Parkes Daur 16 Nailor b. Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Parkes Daur 13 b. Rowley Regis
Sarah Willetts Daur 27 Marr. Nailor b. Rowley Regis
Martha Willetts Grandaur 9 b. Rowley Regis
Hannah Willetts Grandaur 7 b. Rowley Regis
Edward Willetts Grandson 4 b. Rowley Regis
Mary Rose Daur 24 Marr. Nailor b. Rowley Regis
Ann Rose Grandaur 5 b. Rowley Regis
Mary Ann Rose Grandaur 11 Mo b. Rowley Regis
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Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Postby Jimmy » Fri May 05, 2017 7:18 am

Looks like it to me .
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