Alfred Ernest Robinson “completed”

[Tempest]

Any help would gratefully be received on this brick wall!

Alfred Ernest Robinson was born in Soulbury, Bucks 26 Dec1895
His parents move the family to Nottingham.
On 1901 census he is there at Hackney Yard with parents Jonas and Eliza Robinson
By 1911 census family have moved to Cloister St.
But I then have a huge gap with him.
Next definite thing is he and Agnes Keir Cameron have a child a Chrissie Vera born 7 Aug 1928 (I have the cert) Mother is shown as a Robinson formally Cameron so I assume they married?
Another child Annie M Robinson born 1923 (according to 1939 register) but I can't find birth cert.
So despite extensive (I think!) searching I can't find a marriage for Alfred and Agnes. I can't find that birth for Annie. They don't appear on the 1921 census.
By 1939 Register he is a widower, (I think Agnes died in 1936) the two daughters are with him.
Can anyone suggest what happened in that 17 year gap. I couldn't find a WWI record either.
Thanks

[Tempest]

I don't suppose anyone here has access to Scottish Marriage records?
Maybe my problem has been I'm on Find My Past?
On another forum someone has said they found a marriage in Greenock on 17 Nov 1916 for the two of them but I can't find it through FMP

Its only just dawned on me too that the 1921 census is for England and Wales....IE NOT Scotland, that could explain where they were and why I can't find them.

[Jimmy]

The only marriage I can see is this one,
Marriages Sep 1916.
Cameron Kate Robinson. Lancaster. 8e. 1285.
Robinson Alfred E Cameron. Lancaster. 8e. 1285.

Deaths Jun 1936.
Robinson Agnes K. age 41. Nottingham. 7b. 249.

1939 they are in,

11a Commercial St. Nottingham.

[mallosa]

Do you have this....

Marriages Jun 1943
Robinson Annie M M Shipstone Nottingham 7b 752
Shipstone William E Robinson Nottingham 7b 752
Thomas Martha A White Nottingham 7b 752
White Raymond Thomas Nottingham 7b 752

I can't find a birth for Annie but found these.........

ROBINSON, JUNE CAMERON
GRO Reference: 1924 J Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 564

ROBINSON, CHRISSIE VERA CAMERON
GRO Reference: 1928 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 518

ROBINSON, AUDREY CAMERON
GRO Reference: 1929 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 439

ROBINSON, ALFRED MALCOLM CAMERON
GRO Reference: 1931 M Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 696

ROBINSON, REGINALD CAMERON
GRO Reference: 1933 M Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 599

[kdwoodie]

Deaths Dec 1955 (>99%)
SHIPSTONE Annie M M 32 Nottingham 3c 211

[Jimmy]

Annie M may not be a daughter could be just related.

[Tempest]

Thanks everyone for your input, very much appreciated!

Jimmy; I had that death for Agnes Robinson in 1936 and then the 1939 register which shows Alfred a widower after her death at 11a Commercial St.

Mallosa; also yes I had the Annie marriage to William Shipstone in 1943.

kdwoodle; thanks also, but I had that....

It really is the gap from 1911 to the mid 20's I mentioned that I was drawing a blank. But with help from another forum starting to understand for some reason Alfred went up to Glasgow and it was there he married Agnes. As FMP don't do Scottish records I think that was my problem. I think I need access to Scotlands 1921 census to properly fill in the blanks now....WIP!

[kdwoodie]

ROBINSON
ALFRED
CAMERON
AGNES
1916
564 / 1 / 164
GREENOCK EAST

1921
ROBINSON
ALFRED
1921
M
25
564/1 9/ 27
GREENOCK EAST
RENFREW
ROBINSON
AGNES
1921
F
26
564/1 9/ 27
GREENOCK EAST
RENFREW

[Tempest]

kdwoodle, we were probably searching at the same time. I've spent the morning discovering Scotlandspeople website!! I too found Alfred and Agnes marriage. Also the 1921 census that showed the two of them back living with her parents. A 2 room terrace in Greenock with 11 people living there. Agnes's dad out of work Hammerman no doubt after the war with no requirement for more Clyde ships!! It also lists Alfred Ernest Robinson trade and company he worked for but I can't read it. I'll put an image up on the forum thread for some help with that

[kdwoodie]

ROBINSON
ANNIE MILLER MC
F
1923
564 / 1 / 902
GREENOCK EAST

[Tempest]

Kd…. I found the MC in her name stands for McFadyen, her grandmother’s maiden name

Thanks everyone I’m going to annotate this “completed” now