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Postby Tea Time » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:44 pm

Could someone look up these two people for me please (they were married to each other 1891)?

The birthplace (and parents if on birth certificate) of Absalom Bailey, born 1867, died 1933, and the same for Sarah (possibly A) Rogers born approx 1865, died 1928?

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Re: BMD Birth Bailey & Rogers

Postby Jimmy » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:06 pm

Do you mean this one,
1901. Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire.
Absolam Bailey 33. Coal Hewer. Old Park, Shropshire.
Sarah Bailey 28. Old Park, Shropshire.
Thomas Bailey 8. Son.
Leah Bailey 7. Dau.
Jane Ellen Bailey 6. Dau.
Jamima Bailey 3. Dau.
Lily Bailey 4 Months. Dau.

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Re: BMD Birth Bailey & Rogers

Postby Tea Time » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:13 pm

Thats the one...I recognise him from the childrens names.

Now I must check where Old Park is....if what I was told as a child, it should be near Madely in Shropshire.

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Re: BMD Birth Bailey & Rogers

Postby Northern Lass » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:18 pm

Tea Time wrote:Could someone look up these two people for me please (they were married to each other 1891)?

The birthplace (and parents if on birth certificate) of Absalom Bailey, born 1867, died 1933, and the same for Sarah (possibly A) Rogers born approx 1865, died 1928?

Thanks in advance.


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Re: BMD Birth Bailey & Rogers

Postby Jimmy » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:19 pm

Poss,
1881. Burnfall, Dawley, Shropshire.
Richard Bailey 41. Coal miner.
Rossannah Bailey 33.
Enoch Bailey 23. Son.
William Bailey 16. Son.
Absalom Bailey 14. Son.
Lillia Bailey 8. Dau.
Clara Bailey 7. Dau.
Jane E. Bailey 3. Dau.
Sarah A. Bailey 3 months .

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Re: BMD Birth Bailey & Rogers

Postby Jimmy » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:23 pm

1871. Old Park, Dawley.
Thomas Bailey 64.
Richard Bailey 34. Son.
Jemima Bailey 32. Daughter-in-Law.
Enoch G Bailey 15. Grandson.
Mark Bailey 12. Grandson.
Margaret M Bailey 7. Granddaughter.
William Bailey 6. Grandson.
Abraham Bailey 4. Grandson. Absalom on image.

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Re: BMD Birth Bailey & Rogers

Postby Tea Time » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:59 pm

Jimmy wrote:Poss,
1881. Burnfall, Dawley, Shropshire.
Richard Bailey 41. Coal miner.
Rossannah Bailey 33.
Enoch Bailey 23. Son.
William Bailey 16. Son.
Absalom Bailey 14. Son.
Lillia Bailey 8. Dau.
Clara Bailey 7. Dau.
Jane E. Bailey 3. Dau.
Sarah A. Bailey 3 months .

All born Dawley, Shropshire.


This looks to be the probable one. I've got Absalom as being born in 1867, so in 1881 he would have been 14, just like the one on the list. am I correct in assuming that Rossannah would be the spouse? At 33, she seems a bit young to have a son of 23! Are the various census available to all, or are they subscription things?
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Re: BMD Birth Bailey & Rogers

Postby linell » Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:11 pm

Rosehannah is Richard's wife, but she is probably his second wife, i.e. not Enoch's mother.

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Re: BMD Birth Bailey & Rogers

Postby Antie Em » Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:20 pm

Tea Time wrote:
Jimmy wrote:Poss,
1881. Burnfall, Dawley, Shropshire.
Richard Bailey 41. Coal miner.
Rossannah Bailey 33.
Enoch Bailey 23. Son.
William Bailey 16. Son.
Absalom Bailey 14. Son.
Lillia Bailey 8. Dau.
Clara Bailey 7. Dau.
Jane E. Bailey 3. Dau.
Sarah A. Bailey 3 months .

All born Dawley, Shropshire.


This looks to be the probable one. I've got Absalom as being born in 1867, so in 1881 he would have been 14, just like the one on the list. am I correct in assuming that Rossannah would be the spouse? At 33, she seems a bit young to have a son of 23! Are the various census available to all, or are they subscription things?


There are a couple of free census sites : The 1881 census is here : http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Search/ ... search.asp - and various 1841 - 1901 here : http://www.freecen.org.uk/ - this is being put on by volunteers so isn't complete and doesn't contain images.

The 1911 is available by subscription only from Ancestry (no index yet) or from Find my past here : http://www.findmypast.co.uk/search/census/choose

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Re: BMD Birth Bailey & Rogers

Postby Tea Time » Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:31 pm

Thankyou Auntie M...is it always like this, the more names one finds, the more questions one has? :grin:

I'm now wondering if the Richard Bailey aged 41 in 1881 is the same one as shown as being 34 in 1871.....
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Re: BMD Birth Bailey & Rogers

Postby Antie Em » Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:35 pm

Could be - but you might need his marriage to be absolutely sure
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Re: BMD Birth Bailey & Rogers

Postby Jimmy » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:02 pm

1861. 74 Old Park, Dawley.
Thos Bailey 59. Widow. Coal miner.
Richard Bailey 24. Son. Coal miner.
Jemima Bailey 21. Dau in law.
Mark Bailey 1.Grandson.
All born Dawley.


Possible first marriage,
Marriages Sep 1859.
Bailey Richard. Wellington,Sh. 6a. 1189.
Birch Isaac. Wellington, Sh. 6a. 1189.
Gerrard Mary Jane. Wellington, Sh. 6a. 1189.
Guy Jemima. Wellington, Sh. 6a. 1189.

Possible second marriage,

Marriages Dec 1876.
Bailey Richard. Wellington, Sh. 6a. 1535.
Bowkley Richard. Wellington Sh. 6a. 1535.
LLOYD Mary Ann. Wellington Sh. 6a. 1535.
TONKS Rosanna. Wellington, Sh. 6a. 1535.
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Re: BMD Birth Bailey & Rogers

Postby Jimmy » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:08 pm

Deaths Dec 1875.
BAILEY Jemima. age. 36. Madeley. 6a. 473.
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Re: BMD Birth Bailey & Rogers

Postby Jimmy » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:56 pm

Jimmy wrote:1871. Old Park, Dawley.
Thomas Bailey 64.
Richard Bailey 34. Son.
Jemima Bailey 32. Daughter-in-Law.
Enoch G Bailey 15. Grandson.
Mark Bailey 12. Grandson.
Margaret M Bailey 7. Granddaughter.
William Bailey 6. Grandson.
Abraham Bailey 4. Grandson. Absalom on image.

All born Dawley.


I would think Enoch is this one, but could be grand son, son of Jemima before marriage.
1861. Barn Fold, Dawley.
Isaac Guy 62.
Emma Guy 56.
Jane E Guy 26.
William Guy 23.
Selina Guy 17.
Enoch Guy 3. Son.
Martha Guy 2.

1851. Barn Fold,
Isaac Guy 49. Coal miner. Wombridge, Shropshire.
Emma Guy 46. Wombridge, Shropshire.
Isaac Guy 19. Son. Wombridge, Shropshire.
Jane E Guy 16. Dau. Dawley, Shropshire.
Willm Guy 13. Son. Dawley, Shropshire.
Jemt Guy 11. Dau. Dawley, Shropshire.
Selena Guy 7. Dau. Dawley, Shropshire.

1841. Dawley Magna, Shropshire.
Isac Guy 40. Collier.
Emma Guy 35.
Thomas Guy 14.
William Guy 3.
Mark Guy 12.
Isac Guy 10.
Jane Guy 5.
Jimmina Guy 1.
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Re: BMD Birth Bailey & Rogers

Postby Jimmy » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:01 pm

Births Sep 1857.
Guy Enoch. Madeley. 6a. 525.
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