*Archive?* Clancey: Birmingham to Guernsey and back again

[kdp]

Hi all,

Am struggling with this one if anyone can help please...

15 june 1912, John Clancey, 27, bachelor, striker. Fath: John Clancey Deceased, soldier..
marries Priscilla Brettell in Aston Birmingham. Witnesses John and Lily Restall.

In 1911 Lily and John Restall are living in Birmingham, have found marriage and Lily was the grooms sister (Clancey) and she states she was born Guernsey. In 1911 John is living with his mother..Eliza, in Birmingham, same address as on wed cert, he states born Guernsey, She is a widow born Birmingham.

In 1901 Eliza, Lily and John are boarders in Birmingham, Eliza states married born Birmingham. both Lily and John born Guernsey.

in 1891, All the family are together, John age 32, Eliza, 35, Lily, 8. and a William age 6..who I am assuming to be John.
(in 1911 Eliza states 2 children born 2 alive) So is John John or William or John William or William John ??? But on this census they are all down as born Birmingham?

I cant seem to get access to Guernsey births..Nothing on FreeBMD for B'ham
Cant find a marriage for John And Eliza?
Cant see a record of John senior being a soldier? or a death?
Wheres John senior in 01? in 1891 he states occ as Brass Founder.

If any one could help wopuld be most grateful
Thank you

[MarkCDodd]

There are no Clancey born in the Channel Isles in the Army birth records after 1869.

[MarkCDodd]

Armed Forces registration event: Death
Name: CLANCY, John
Station: Taragarh
Country: Indian Subcontinent
Year: 1901
Page: 370
Age at death: 24 (Too young!)
Record source: GRO Army Death Indices (1881 to 1955)

Armed Forces registration event: Death
Name: CLANCY, J
Regiment: 3 Railway Pioneer Regt
Year: 1899-1902
Page: 666
Record source: GRO Natal & South African Forces Death (1899 to 1902)

Civil Registration event: Death
Name: CLANCY, John
Registration District: Cardiff
County: Glamorganshire
Year of Registration: 1907
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death: 48
Volume No: 11A
Page No: 203

[MarkCDodd]

Boer War records

Clancy John 7236 Royal Garrison Artillery
Claney John 2047 Railway Pioneer Regiment
Clancy J 4712 10th (Prince Of Wales's Own Royal) Hussars
Clancy J 2047 Railway Pioneer Regiment
Clancy J 6025 The Royal Munster Fusiliers
Clancy J 2869 The Princess Of Wales's Own (Yorkshire Regiment)
Clancy J A 280 Coldstream Guards
Clancy William John 30212 Imperial Yeomanry
Clancy P J 279 Queensland Imperial Bushmen
Claney The King's Royal Rifle Corps
Claney The King's Royal Rifle Corps

[kdp]

Thanks Mark.
The 48 year old one fits perfectly. Apart from the Cardiff connection? (age and Eliza declaring herself widow in 1911)
Apologies, know nothing about war records
How would I connect any of these records to them being the one I'm looking for??

[MarkCDodd]

I have dismissed the Army deaths. One was too young and the other was African.

The only thing you can do with a death record is order it and see if it fits.

TH Army records take a bit of sifting through.

There is a Clancy family who live in Guernsey and appear throughout the census.

[kdp]

Thank you for looking Mark.
I cant find a death that fits other than one in West Brom.
I cant find him 1901.
Not sure where John Clancey senior was born, Cant find his marriage to Eliza, she states in all census born Birmingham tho all we have for him is 1891 where he states Birmingham altho that poss wrong as the children are stated Birmingham (only in 91). So I'm well and truly confuddled on this one ....

[grangers14]

Would you like this sent to Brickwalls or Archiving?

Jo