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[grangers14]

As Liunnea on Ancestry

1891 Census,
5, David Street, Pendleton
Joseph Guinnea, head, 47, General Labourer, Ireland
Mary Jane, wife, 48, Ireland
Joseph, son, 21, General Labourer, Prescot
Margaret, daur, 19, Cotton Operative, Pendleton
Sarah, daur, 17, Cotton Operative, Pendleton
Ann Jane, daur, 15, Cotton Operative, Pendleton
Robert, son, 8, Pendleton
Samuel, son, 6, Pendleton

[peterd]

1881 Census
5, Williams Court, Regent Road, Salford,
Joseph Ginney, head, 36, Labourer in iron Works, Ireland
Mary J, wife, 36, Ireland
Joseph, 11, Prescott
Margaret, 9, Salford
Sarah, 7, Salford
Ann J, 5, Salford

cheers granger couldnt find this anywhere


anyone find them in 1871 please

[grangers14]

Possible birth for Joseph,
Name: Joseph Guinea
Year of Registration: 1870
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Prescot
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 617


Havent seen them 1871 yet.
A big possible but Mary Jane as Jane, occupation wrong and brother in law wrong? No babe Joseph. I'll put any way.
20, Joynsons Build (?) Manchester
Joseph J Guinan, head, 28, Blacksmith, ireland
Jane, wife, 28, Boot Binder Ireland
James Wilson, unm, 20, Boot Maker, Ireland
Jo

[grangers14]

?? Possible for Mary Jane McGill.
Transcribed on Ancestry as Mary Jae McGill
1861 Census
Cellar Soveriegn Street,
Isabella Kearns, head, w, 45, Formerly a servant
Eliza, daur, 19, Wool spreader
Mary Jane McGill, Lodger, 19, Wool damper(?)
Mary Hannon, Lodger, 19, Wool Spreader
Sarah Hannon, Lodeger, 30(?) Wool Damper

All born Ireland.

[peterd]

see if cardigan can shed some light on it maybe joseph was with granparents ?

[cardigan]

mary jane and roberts marriage

MCGILL Mary J GUINNE Joseph 1869 Bolton Register Office or Registrar Attended Lancashire Bolton RO/37/156

do you have the wedding cert for this marriage cardigan if so who were the fathers, withnesess, and joseph and mary age ?

Thanks

I did get a copy of the MC 20 years back and do have it somewhere that must be where I got Joseph Guinne b.1843 fathers name Hugh Guinne. If I don't find it soon I'll send for another copy.

[cardigan]

poss roberts marriage
GUINEY Robert SMITH Mary E 1901 Salford Register Office or Registrar Attended Lancashire Salford SAL/86/86

Thanks for that, I think the above are likely to be my grandfater and grandmother. He died aged 49 years, she lived on but died many years back. There was a story told to me when I was a child that my grandmother (Smith) was related to the Cussons soap people, I've always wondered if that's where the few brain cells came from as the Guinne side didn't seem too bright, they were however very fertile!

[cardigan]

Possible birth for Joseph,
Name: Joseph Guinea
Year of Registration: 1870
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Prescot
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 617
Jo

The birth in Prescot runf a bell, I seem to recall coming across a situation whereby at a point in time someone was in workhouse in Whiston/Prescot. Could it be that the mother might have been in such a place temporarily? Why would she be in a workhouse 30 miles west of the family living in Salford?

[cardigan]

Thanks for everybodies help, I much appreciate it, there's a lot of stuff here to read through and collate.

I think when I was on this 20 years back I formed the view that to get some information about Hugh Guinne (father of Joseph Guinne b.1843) I would have to physically go to Bolton Registry office, is that correct? (The reason I didn't do it 20 years back is because I was living Hong Kong and like I said, was much irritated by the surname keep changing).

What was the literacy rate in 1840?