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I have a Margaret Hartican b. 1845 Woolwich, Kent to David & Lucy. She married Albert Hounsom in 1866 but by 1881 they appear to be living apart. He died in 1889 and according to the Probate notice he was living with his parents and she at the same address as the 1881 Census, The Royal George, Barking, Essex. The 1881 census shows their daughter Lilian Margaret (Lillie M in the census) with her mother in Barking. After that I can find neither of them.
Can anyone help please?
Thanks.

Further to this I've found a rather odd entry in the Canadian deaths lists, info basically as follows:

Ontario, Canada Deaths
Place: 6 Farnham Ave, York, Toronto
Name: Hounsom, Margaret
Residence: Apt 1, Farnham Court, 6 Farnham Ave
Date of Death: July 9 1930
Cause: General arteriosclerosis, myocardial failure, Hypostatic pneumonia
Condition: Widow
Age: 79
Father: Albert Hounsom
Mother: Margaret Hartican
Informant: Miss L Hounsom, Farnham Court. Daughter
Place of Burial: Mount Pleasant
Date: July 10 30

This is obviously incorrect as Margaret Hartican would have been six when this Margaret, supposedly her daughter, was born. Was this actually Margaret Hartican and was the daughter who reported the death actually her daughter Lilian?
Or, might it be that this reports the death of Lilian Margaret and that the age was muddled with the year of her birth? Although the difference between a 79 year old and a 51 year old should have been obvious to the doctor signing the death certificate.

Can anyone find any evidence that Margaret and/or Lilian travelled to, and lived in, Canada?

I can't see anything in the cenus or on the passenger lists.

Margaret Hounsom

in the Ontario, Canada, Deaths, 1869-1938 and Deaths Overseas, 1939-1947
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Name: Margaret Hounsom
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1851
Birth Place: England
Age at Death: 79
[85]
Death Date: 9 Jul 1930
Death Place: York, Ontario, Canada

This may sound really silly, but..... When the informant Miss L Hounsom, daughter, was asked the names of the deceased (Margaret Hounsom) parents, she misunderstood and actually gave her (Lilian Margaret's) parents names rather than the deceased.

On Ancestry, there's this John Ernest Hounsom burial. Could this be Margaret & Albert's son who is buried in the same cemetery as Margaret?

Name: John Ernest Hounsom
Birth Date: 17 Jan 1871
Death Date: 30 Jul 1951
Cemetery: Mount Pleasant Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Toronto, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada

Jimmy wrote:Margaret Hounsom

in the Ontario, Canada, Deaths, 1869-1938 and Deaths Overseas, 1939-1947
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Name: Margaret Hounsom
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1851
Birth Place: England
Age at Death: 79
[85]
Death Date: 9 Jul 1930
Death Place: York, Ontario, Canada

I saw that, but can't see where it's come from, presumably a comment supplied to the site. I'm loth to just accept it, so many of these come from others trying to force records into their idea of facts. Not that I'm discarding it, just suspicious.

BC Wench wrote:This may sound really silly, but..... When the informant Miss L Hounsom, daughter, was asked the names of the deceased (Margaret Hounsom) parents, she misunderstood and actually gave her (Lilian Margaret's) parents names rather than the deceased.

That may well be the case, if Miss L Hounsom is Lilian she's stuck pretty close to her mother's coat tails which might suggest she's not the brightest button in the box, add the grief of losing her mother and errors are easy to make. So the next question is, "What happened to her?".

On Ancestry, there's this John Ernest Hounsom burial. Could this be Margaret & Albert's son who is buried in the same cemetery as Margaret?

Name: John Ernest Hounsom
Birth Date: 17 Jan 1871
Death Date: 30 Jul 1951
Cemetery: Mount Pleasant Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Toronto, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada

Quite likely, my notes state "possibly went to Canada".

1921. 195 Grace St, Toronto West.
John Hounson 50. Manager. England. Emigrated 1886.
Emma Hounson 51.
Enid Hounson 27. Dau.
Cecilia Hounson 24. Dau.
Dorothy Hounson 23. Dau.
Arnold Hounson 18. Son.
Eric Hounson 10. Son.


1911. 31 De Grass, Toronto East.
John Hornton 40. immigration Year: 1876.
Emma Hornton 36.
Edith Hornton 13.
Dorothy Hornton 12.
Margaret Hornton 10.
Edwin Hornton 8.
Beatrice Hornton 4.
Marian Hornton 1.

1901 John calling him self Ernest.

1901. Toronto.
Earnest Hounsom 30. Accountant. Birth Day & Month 17 Jan, 1871. Immigration Year 1885.
Emily Hounsom 31.
Enia Hounsom 7.
Cecilia Hounsom 4.
Dorothy Hounsom 3.
Albert Hounsom 1.

Thanks, I've got that lot and am working on the children's families, the three girls didn't marry and are all buried in their parents grave. However, I've lost one of Albert & Margaret's daughter-in-laws but I'll start a new topic for that.

I think this can probably be archived.