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*To be Archived 24hrs*Definitely Jane Rickards!

Postby mel1949 » Sun Apr 19, 2009 7:44 pm

Hi.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE can anyone give me any information on a Jane Rickards who married Joseph Beard. Joseph was born in St. Martins, Worcester, c 1846 his occupation shows as shoemaker.

I have verified that Rickards is her maiden name but can't trace her birth. I've checked from 1845 - 1850 inc... her dob was c 1847. It may be that Rickards wasn't her maiden name & that she had been married to a Rickards prior to marrying Joseph.

Children of Joseph & Jane were Herbert Thomas (my grandfather); Clarinda Charlotte Jane; Joseph; Alfred G; Fanny; Edith & Allan, that I'm aware of.


Many thanks
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Re: Jane Richards/Rickards born c1850

Postby Jimmy » Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:29 pm

According to the 1881 census this looks like the family.

1881.

Joseph BEARD. Head. M . Male. 35 Worcester, Worcester, Shoemaker.
Jane BEARD. Wife. M . Female. 34 Worcester, Worcester,
Herbert Thomas BEARD. Son. Male. 8. Dudley, Worcester, Scholar.
William Henry BEARD. Son. Male. 6. Worcester, Worcester, Scholar.
Clarinda Charlotte J. BEARD. Daughter. Female. 5. Worcester, Worcester, Scholar.
Joseph BEARD. Son. Male. 3. Worcester, Worcester,
Richd. Alfd. BEARD. Lodger. Male. 19. . Fearnall Heath, Worcester, Clicker.

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Re: Jane Richards/Rickards born c1850

Postby Northern Lass » Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:09 pm

If no marriage you may have to send for the birth cerif for one of the kids and the mothers name should be on that
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Re: Jane Richards/Rickards born c1850

Postby peterd » Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:37 pm

poss christening

JOSEPH BEARD
Christening: 19 APR 1846 Saint Martin, Worcester, Worcester,

Father: JOSEPH BEARD
Mother: CHARLOTTE


poss marriage

JOSEPH BEARD
CHARLOTTE NELMS
Marriage: 09 JUN 1845 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,


any one find them on 51 and 61 census please
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Re: Jane Richards/Rickards born c1850

Postby Northern Lass » Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:20 pm

mel1949 wrote:Hi.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE can anyone give me any information on a Jane Richards/Rickards who married Joseph Beard. Joseph was born in St. Martins, Worcester, his occupation shows as shoemaker.

I can't verify Jane's maiden name, or get any info on her ancestors.
They had 2 children, that I know of; Herbert Thomas, who was born 1872, and Clarinda (I think!), who was born c1876.



Many thanks
Mel


I wonder if she is a Jane..... I know she puts Jane on the 1881 and the 1871
but on the 1871 there is a Sidaway with them

and found this marriage

1865
BEARD * Joseph SIDAWAY Mary A Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/023/423
BEARD * Joseph SIDDAWAY Mary A Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/023/423

If we know josephs parents we can take a look at that marriage check it out

1871 Stourbridge Rd Dudley
Joseph beard visitor 25 shoemaker b worcs
Jane Beard wife 24

the head of the hsehold is a Thomas Beard
and another lodger is a Richard Beard
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Re: Jane Richards/Rickards born c1850

Postby FarSide » Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:44 pm

Poss
1861
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Fearnall heath, Claines
Joseph Beard 34 - Shoemaker master - b Dudley
Charlotte Beard 30 - b All Saints
Joseph Beard 15 - App shoemaker - b St Martins
Clarinda M Beard 10 - b St Pauls
William H Beard 6 - b St Helens
David T Beard 2 - b Dudley
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Re: Jane Richards/Rickards born c1850

Postby FarSide » Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:51 am

Hi Mel
How do you know Joseph's wife is Jane Richards/Rickards?
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Re: Jane Richards/Rickards born c1850

Postby FarSide » Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:07 am

1891
7 Summer Street, St Claines
Jane Beard 44 - Widow
Herbert T Beard 18 - Labourer - b Dudley
William H Beard 16 - Brush maker
C Garmden C J Beard 13 (def Clarinda CJ Beard) - Gloveness
Joseph Beard 13
Alfred G Beard 9
Frances N Beard 7
Edith E Beard 5
Alice M Beard 3
others b Worcester

1901
Droitwich Road, Worcester
4 S. Stephens Ter
Jane Beard 54 - Widow
Clara Beard 25 - Machinist glove
Joseph Beard 23 - Quarryman brick works
Alfred Beard 19 - Grocers porter
Edith Beard 15 - Nurse domestic
Alice Beard 13 - Nurse domestic
all b Worc
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Re: Jane Richards/Rickards born c1850

Postby FarSide » Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:17 am

1865
BEARD * Joseph SIDAWAY Mary A Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/023/423
BEARD * Joseph SIDDAWAY Mary A Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/023/423


Extracted
JOSEPH BEARD
Marriages:
Spouse: MARY ANN SIDAWAY OR BALL
Marriage: 09 OCT 1865 Saint Thomas, Dudley
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Re: Jane Richards/Rickards born c1850

Postby FarSide » Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:47 am

1871 Stourbridge Rd Dudley
Joseph beard visitor 25 shoemaker b worcs
Jane Beard wife 24

the head of the hsehold is a Thomas Beard
and another lodger is a Richard Beard


1871
Thomas Beard 36 - Shoemaker
Harriet Beard 35 - b Middlesex Smithfield
Alice Beard 9 - b St Michaels
William Beard 6
Charlotte Beard 2
Thomas Sidaway 14 - App shoemaker
Joseph Beard 25 - Visitor - Shoemaker - b St Stentine
James Beard 24 - (Jane) - Wife - boot closer - b St Nicholas
Richard Beard 9 - bro - b Claines
Richard Beard 32 - Lodger - Shoemaker - b Smethwick
Carolene Beard 44 - Wife - b St Martin
Selena Beard 8
others b Dudley

Poss - Brothers
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Re: Jane Richards/Rickards born c1850

Postby Northern Lass » Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:18 am

FarSide wrote:
1865
BEARD * Joseph SIDAWAY Mary A Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/023/423
BEARD * Joseph SIDDAWAY Mary A Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/023/423


Extracted
JOSEPH BEARD
Marriages:
Spouse: MARY ANN SIDAWAY OR BALL
Marriage: 09 OCT 1865 Saint Thomas, Dudley




1840
BALL Mary A SIDAWAY Thomas Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/003/155

wonder if that Thomas Sidaway age 14 is their son?
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Re: Jane Richards/Rickards born c1850

Postby FarSide » Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:43 am

Poss
1861
96
Cawney Hill, Dudley
Thomas Sidaway 42 - Colliery night watch
Mary Ann Sidaway 38
William Sidaway 18 - Coalminer
Eliza Sidaway 16 - Nailmaker
Rosannah Sidaway 12 - Nailmaker
Mary Ann Sidaway 9
Hannah Sidaway 8 - Nurse
Thomas Sidaway 4
Caroline Sidaway 1
all b Dudley
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Re: Jane Richards/Rickards born c1850

Postby FarSide » Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:45 am

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Re: Jane Richards/Rickards born c1850

Postby FarSide » Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:51 am

Thought may as well post them..
1841
Cawney Hill, Dudley
Thos Sidaway 20 - Labourer
Mary Sidaway 19

1851
109
Cawney Hill, Dudley
Thomas Sidawy 32 - Miner
Maryann Sidawy 28 - Nailor
William Sidawy 8
Eliza Sidawy 6
Rosannah Sidawy 2
Mary Ann Sidawy 2 Mo
all b Dudley
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Re: Jane Richards/Rickards born c1850

Postby Northern Lass » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:09 am

I will add that to connections and will add the marriages on a look up

I would love to know why Thomas sidaway is living with the Beards
and how odd that a Joseph Beard married his mother!

but which Joseph

and when did she die?
and did he then just merely live with a Jane?

the birth certifs of the kids will help

I bet it is Joseph Beard snr
maybe Charlotte dies
and so that is a step brother

interesting
march 1865 a Charlotte beard dies
and in
Dec 1865 there is that marriage
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