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Hi guys,

What's the usual practice for tracing relatives after the 1911 census?

I have an Alice BAKER (b.1887) who was the sister of my gg-grandfather John Albert BAKER (1877-1947). John, Alice and their siblings were children of Joseph and Eliza BAKER. I've been able to trace her on the 1901 census but then I've lost her. Can't find a suitable marriage either. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

1887 abt Birth Handsworth, Staffordshire, England
1901 Age: 14 Residence Northfield, Worcestershire, England

Regards,
Darren

There are a few Marriages on Free BMD for Alice Baker Kings Norton District. Was she just Alice, there are some for Alice B. Alice M, Alice E in the right time line:-

Dec Qtr 1904
Baker Alice King's N. 6c 691
Hackett Charles King's N. 6c 691
Jackson Annie King's N. 6c 691
Onley John Henry King's N. 6c 691

Plenty of Records for after 1911, School Records, Wills, the Electoral Roll 1928, Trade Directories. Do your family have no idea, my Mom was able to fill me in from the 1930's as she remembered everyone, she also gave me all the old family pictures. Linell.

linell wrote:There are a few Marriages on Free BMD for Alice Baker Kings Norton District. Was she just Alice, there are some for Alice B. Alice M, Alice E in the right time line:-

Dec Qtr 1904
Baker Alice King's N. 6c 691
Hackett Charles King's N. 6c 691
Jackson Annie King's N. 6c 691
Onley John Henry King's N. 6c 691

Plenty of Records for after 1911, School Records, Wills, the Electoral Roll 1928, Trade Directories. Do your family have no idea, my Mom was able to fill me in from the 1930's as she remembered everyone, she also gave me all the old family pictures. Linell.

Hi Linell, thanks for the info. I think she was just Alice, but the marriage possibilities you highlighted certainly give me a good starting point. Being a Wiltshire boy my midlands geography isnt very good and I can never tell if a marriage sounds reasonable on the BMDs. Still, a bit of trial and error won't hurt.
Unfortunately my family aren't very good at remembering our family history! I recently had to pay a fortune to research and get hold of my great-grandfather's army records as my granddad (bless him) couldnt even remember the regiment his father was in! Genealogy can be hard work sometimes!
Also, thanks for the tips... it never even crossed my mind to search school records or wills but that would certainly be an interesting area of research. Us Baker's were never wealthy folk but it would make an interesting read if any of them made wills. Darren

Hi Darren if you could spend a day at the brand new Birmingham History Centre, sure you would find plenty of information on your Baker family. Linell.

I've read that Birmingham Archives is closed now until 3rd September 2013

linell wrote:There are a few Marriages on Free BMD for Alice Baker Kings Norton District. Was she just Alice, there are some for Alice B. Alice M, Alice E in the right time line:-

Dec Qtr 1904
Baker Alice King's N. 6c 691
Hackett Charles King's N. 6c 691
Jackson Annie King's N. 6c 691
Onley John Henry King's N. 6c 691

Plenty of Records for after 1911, School Records, Wills, the Electoral Roll 1928, Trade Directories. Do your family have no idea, my Mom was able to fill me in from the 1930's as she remembered everyone, she also gave me all the old family pictures. Linell.

Hi, so King's Norton is the area I need to search for a suitable marriage? The only one I can find between 1900-1910 was the one you found above.

possible for the above marriage
1911. 8 Pemrose? Avenue, Brighton Road, Birmingham
John Henry Onley, 30, coal miner
Alice, wife, married 6 years, 1 child and living
Henry Victor, son, 5,
All born Birmingham

Here is a link to the Kings Norton Registration District, you need to find Alice on the Census and see if she is living in the Kings Norton Reg District:-

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/dist ... orton.html

HTH Linell.

linell wrote:Here is a link to the Kings Norton Registration District, you need to find Alice on the Census and see if she is living in the Kings Norton Reg District:-

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/dist ... orton.html

HTH Linell.

Thnaks Linell, a useful link which I've now bookmarked

Theres this other one I was looking at earlier??
1911. 1 Bk 216, Guilford Street, Aston, Birmingham
Charles Smith, head, 26, Engraver on Gold and Silver, Birmingham
Alice Baker Smith, wife, 23, married 1 year, no children, Handsworth

Free bmd
Marriages Mar 1910
SMITH Charles Ernest Aston 6d 296

grangers14 wrote:Theres this other one I was looking at earlier??
1911. 1 Bk 216, Guilford Street, Aston, Birmingham
Charles Smith, head, 26, Engraver on Gold and Silver, Birmingham
Alice Baker Smith, wife, 23, married 1 year, no children, Handsworth

Free bmd
Marriages Mar 1910
SMITH Charles Ernest Aston 6d 296

Hi Granger, ooooh this one looks very likely indeed she and her siblings were all born in Handsworth! Think it might be worth my while obtaining a copy of the wedding cert for verification! Thanks, Darren

I wouldnt go rushing in spending your money.
Im not sure how good the local registras office is, some one else may say, but it may be worth checking fathers name with them before you buy.
It was just a thought from myself.
Jo