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Arthur Douglas WILLIAMS b.1872

PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:25 pm
by sparkstopper
I have a photo of my maternal Grandfather in uniform; I believe he served in WW1, but am unable
to find any details: I do not recognise the capbadge....I would be grateful for any help:

Name: Arthur Douglas WILLIAMS
Born abt: 1871. died 1935. Birmingham.
Occupation: Flint Glass Cutter.

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Re: Arthur Douglas WILLIAMS b.1872

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:03 am
by apowell
Hi,

The problem is we have so many different badges etc during the First World War that it is difficult to pinpoint the regiment. My advice would be to post it on the forum below because you will have people who specialize in particular regiments etc and someone will be able to tell you.

The forums free to join and very useful.

http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/

Good luck and I'll keep searching but I'm confident someone on the above forum will tell you sooner.

Let us know if you find out.

Regards
Adrian

Re: Arthur Douglas WILLIAMS b.1871

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:49 am
by sparkstopper
Thanks Adrian: Will try that.
Never thought that my maternal grandfather was in WW1,
I thought he was too old (43 in 1914), so maybe its a photo
from a previous conflict? Thanks again. Derek.

Re: Arthur Douglas WILLIAMS b.1872

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:01 pm
by sparkstopper
Had a suggestion from the above mentioned site:
That the Cap Badge is of the 10th. Hussars who entered the
theatre of war: 3rd. Oct.1914 and the design of the belt was
not introduced until 1914.

Re: Arthur Douglas WILLIAMS b.1872

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:41 pm
by apowell
sparkstopper wrote:Had a suggestion from the above mentioned site:
That the Cap Badge is of the 10th. Hussars who entered the
theatre of war: 3rd. Oct.1914 and the design of the belt was
not introduced until 1914.


Hi,

That information really helps and this may well Arthur's medal index card:

Arthur Williams
Regiment: 10th Hussars (The Prince of Wale's Own), Corps of Hussars
Reg no: 21096
Medals: 1914 Star, British and Victory medals
Date of entry: 3/10/14
Remarks: A/SGT

Sounds promising and looks like he was promoted to acting Sgt later on in the war.

Regards
Adrian

Re: Arthur Douglas WILLIAMS b.1872

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:54 pm
by sparkstopper
Somehow I don't believe he ever had any medals...However I have had another reply:
which I think would be more likely.....Anyway thanks for your input Adrian, will do some
more 'digging' with relatives to see if they have info:

From Clive:
To me the badge resembles the "Royal arms" used by the Volunteer Battalions (ex-Volunteer Training Corps) in the later stages of the war. That would also fit with an older, home service man. More or less identical to that used for the General Service Corps in WW2. The soldier is also "infantry" of some kind, by his waist belt - not used by "mounted" troops eg cavalry, artillery, engineers.


Clive

Re: Arthur Douglas WILLIAMS b.1872

PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:58 am
by apowell
sparkstopper wrote:Somehow I don't believe he ever had any medals...However I have had another reply:
which I think would be more likely.....Anyway thanks for your input Adrian, will do some
more 'digging' with relatives to see if they have info:

From Clive:
To me the badge resembles the "Royal arms" used by the Volunteer Battalions (ex-Volunteer Training Corps) in the later stages of the war. That would also fit with an older, home service man. More or less identical to that used for the General Service Corps in WW2. The soldier is also "infantry" of some kind, by his waist belt - not used by "mounted" troops eg cavalry, artillery, engineers.


Clive


Hi,

Yeh makes more sense I was really puzzled how someone was in the Hussars (not local regiment) without seeming to have been a regular soldier pre 1914 given his age and that he went with the Regiment at the start of the conflict in 1914.

Good luck in your research.
Adrian